On 12/04/18 09:21, Cinque Port Computers wrote: > Hi Israel, Nico, > > 1) I have no opinion one way or the other about the suggested > wallpapers; I'm not very good at judging what is artistically pleasing > one way or the other; although I will just say that a refreshed > wallpaper maybe a good idea over the one we've had for a long while now.
Same here i lack the artistic skills for this, however i look at how easy text is to read on the background so a light background and white icon text is hard to read, so as long as there is a light / dark contrast to me it is fine, what the user does post install is up to them. > > 2) Is it absolutely a requirement to still now produce a CD-sized > iso? If it still is, then can the tarball be removed and downloaded > at install time? Just a thought. > probably not, I would think that most devices (even older devices) have usb boot capability now anyway, so there are options to plug in a usb flash disk, or a usb dvd device. However if moving to dvd be careful we don't fall in to the feature creep trap and add more bells / whistles / software etc, just because the bigger file system allows that. Very easy trap to fall in to. By that i mean don't do what the pi foundation has done and clutter up the raspbian OS with things like wolfram (500mb of disk space) and libreoffice which take up a huge amount of space, not good when you are never going to use it. I am trying to keep screenshots in the manual to a minimum where possible. Simple to save space but also to avoid the temptation to write docs for every tool when there are external resources already written. However saying that, having more space for documentation is a good thing. so include manuals for OBI etc too. Paul Paul > Regards, > Jack > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* 04 April 2018 10:08 AM > *To:* Cinque Port Computers; Israel; torios- dev; torios > *Subject:* Re: [Torios] [Torios-dev] ToriOS 2.0 background > > Hi Jack, > > Please tell us what you think about > > 1. The suggested wallpaper(s). > > 2. How to balance between size and completeness of the ISO file: > > --- > Aside from that changing the size by KiB is not going to do much, we > need to reduce it by MiB. Systemd really made our footprint balloon > pretty substantially, and make some things more complicated and not work > as well... but... it is what it is :) I will again try to limit the > size of everything in the newer ISO, however I may have to dig deeper > and look for things that I can get rid of, and see if I can shrink the > tarball pretty substantially, OR > > a.) rework the live system to be extremely bare bones (text only) for a > special CD sized ISO. > > b.) make an ISO with the tarball NOT included so it can be kept on a USB > to install to keep it CD sized. > --- > > Best regards > Nio > > Den 2018-04-04 kl. 09:38, skrev Cinque Port Computers: > > Hi Nio, > > > > I'm not sure or clear on what you want us others to pass an opinion on; > > I'm confused. > > > > Regards, > > Jack > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* Torios > > <torios-bounces+jackdtrice=outlook....@lists.launchpad.net> on > behalf of > > Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com> > > *Sent:* 04 April 2018 8:07 AM > > *To:* Israel; torios- dev; torios > > *Subject:* Re: [Torios] [Torios-dev] ToriOS 2.0 background > > Den 2018-04-03 kl. 23:21, skrev Israel: > >> On 04/03/2018 11:36 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > >>> Den 2018-04-03 kl. 15:55, skrev Israel: > >>>> On 04/03/2018 02:34 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > >>>>> Den 2018-04-02 kl. 19:24, skrev Israel: .... > >>>> > >>> > >>> Hi Israel, > >>> > >>> Yes, it is a good idea generally. But if including 3 images will make > >>> the size exceed some size limit, it is better to have only one image > >>> in the default package (the tarball). > >>> > >>> Best regards > >>> Nio > >> > >> Hey Nio, > >> > >> The size of the original current background is 187.3 KiB > >> > >> The size of the 3 smaller images is 107.8 KiB > >> > >> So we are actually saving 80(ish) KiB by changing to this. I think > this > >> is really good because it offers more backgrounds, and reduces the > size. > >> > >> Aside from that changing the size by KiB is not going to do much, we > >> need to reduce it by MiB. Systemd really made our footprint balloon > >> pretty substantially, and make some things more complicated and not > work > >> as well... but... it is what it is :) I will again try to limit the > >> size of everything in the newer ISO, however I may have to dig deeper > >> and look for things that I can get rid of, and see if I can shrink the > >> tarball pretty substantially, OR > >> > >> a.) rework the live system to be extremely bare bones (text only) for a > >> special CD sized ISO. > >> > >> b.) make an ISO with the tarball NOT included so it can be kept on > a USB > >> to install to keep it CD sized. > >> > > > > Hi Israel, and all toriosadores, > > > > 1. I am waiting for the opinions of you other toriosadores ... :-) > > > > 2. Instead of shrinking the tarball pretty substantially, I think your > > alternatives, a.) and b.), are better. > > > > If possible, I think it would be best with a text only live system for a > > CD sized ISO file. But I have tested the alternative with a separate > > tarball (or separate tarballs) with the original One Button Installer, > > and if the user group people accept it, fine :-) > > > > Best regards > > Nio > > > > -- > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios > <https://launchpad.net/%7Etorios> > > <https://launchpad.net/%7Etorios> > > Post to : tor...@lists.launchpad.net > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios > <https://launchpad.net/%7Etorios> > > <https://launchpad.net/%7Etorios> > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > -- Paul Sutton http://www.zleap.net Torbay Tech Jam - 2nd Saturday of the Month at Paignton Library
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