That's fine Thomas - I certainly wasn't suggesting any changes in the
short term. What I was trying to say was that I do not believe there
would be any legal or relicensing issues - we have the author (Jon's)
permission to pull out whatever we need and to use it (update license
headers and change package names) and I also believe that the ASF
Membership would in this particular instance be okay with this. But it
is certainly only something that could be done if it made things easer
for us in some way.
One other thing to consider is that in all the world, Torque is
apparently the only project using the code. I sure hope that someone is
backing up softwareforge.de.
Scott
Thomas Fischer wrote:
I currently do not have the time and the nerves to deal with the legal
stuff, relicensing the code, adapt our imports etc. If someone else
wants to do it, fine; but I do not see any advantages except that we
could patch the code (But I did not see any attemt to do this for a
long time).
As for the smooth transition, we can also have this if we use the
forked version.
Thomas
On Thu, 17 May 2007, Scott Eade wrote:
Actually Thomas, as a long time ASF Member, Jon is well aware of the
issues with regards to bringing code into the ASF (you will find his
name in bunches of author tags in Turbine, including the earliest
revision of Turbine.java to be found in svn [dated 2001-08-16] and
even a few in Torque).
Torque has actually been using a fork of Village for a while now,
hosted at http://www.softwareforge.de/projects/village/
I see that Jon has taken share.whichever.com offline - this was
probably what prompted him to offer the code to Torque.
Given all of the relevant factors (Jon, his offer, the fork, the
license, the plan to phase Village out of Torque) I suggest that we
pull any of the classes we use into Torque itself. Doing this should
make phasing it out quite a bit easier since we will be free to
refactor the code however we see fit rather than having to eliminate
it in one fell swoop.
Scott
Thomas Fischer wrote:
Hi Jon,
Thanks for the offer. I'm afraid that donating the code to the ASF
involves a lot of legal overhead, so personally I'd rather not put
the code to ASF. If you are ok with making the village code
available at a third place, we'd rather do that.
Thomas
On Sun, 6 May 2007, Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
Hi there,
I'm the author of Village.
I'm not sure if Torque still uses Village under the covers, but I'd
like to stop hosting the CVS/SVN tree and give the code over to you
here if you are still using it. I think/hope this is the only
project still using it anymore.
Long live Village. Let's Hibernate/EJB3 replace it. =)
jon
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