On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Peer Sommerlund <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 09/01/2009, Douglas Philips <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I'm a bit hesitant to talk about this here for being misinterpreted, >> but I think the elephant in the room is bugging me even more than >> that. :) >> >> The following was posted over on the mercurial list, but I think it >> needs to be talked about here: >> (my comments follow) >> >> On 2009 Jan 9, at 2:33 AM, Peter Arrenbrecht wrote: >> >> > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Thomas Burdick <[email protected] >> > > wrote: >> >> TortoiseHg could help win some of the people I work with over if it had >> >> some >> >> usability work done on it. I don't know if its the use of toolbox >> >> buttons >> >> instead of form buttons, gtk+ (it looks plain wrong in windows...), or >> >> a >> >> combination of both but no one I've talked to thought the UI was >> >> intuitive. >> >> #1 complaint/issue was workflow - typically you go down a form, and the >> >> buttons to operate things are at the top. I don't think the other >> >> tortoise's >> >> do this #2 complaint/issue - why aren't the commands the same for the >> >> tortoise menu as hg help. what is synchronize and why don't I get >> >> things like >> >> pull, push, update, revert, rollback etc as menu options instead of >> >> this silly >> >> business with toolbox buttons. I try telling these guys "pull" and >> >> "push" >> >> and they ask me, where is push/pull in the menu. >> > >> > Well, part of the Summer of Code project was to do such changes. >> > Sadly, they weren't accepted into TortoiseHg. The student had got rid >> > of the close buttons, redone some dialogs to better follow established >> > style, etc. And there was a Debian package, too. Maybe I wasn't >> > insistent enough to help him get it into THg. Problem is, I'm not a >> > core THg developer myself, so coaching this project was a little >> > difficult. But this work still exists! Maybe it can still serve as a >> > basis: >> > >> > http://www.bitbucket.org/gpoo/soc/overview/ >> > >> > -parren >> >> >> >> I was very happy to see this project get started, and I am curious to >> know where it stands with the TortoiseHG developers. >> I am curious for two reasons: >> a) Having this kind of work would have made TortoiseHG easier to >> accept in my work group. >> b) More importantly because it sends a message about how non-core- >> developer efforts are treated. >> >> I understand that this is all volunteer, and I very much appreciate >> the work that has gone into TortoiseHG so far. >> It is hard to be optimistic about carving out time to work on THg when >> it seems that such work would just languish... >> and I very much would like to figure out how to contribute in a way >> that is likely to be more successful than the GSoC work was at being >> adopted... > > You probably want to hear this from TK, but here is a quick summary as I saw > it: > > The patch series you point to contains the following changes > 1) remove quit buttons > 2) transform a few minor dialogs to glade (about, backout, merge, update) > 3) prepare some widgets for a stand alone application > 4) add a stand alone application using glade for gui > 5) make setup.py work outside Windows (e.g. Linux) > 6) add submenus on Nautilus > > As I recall it the main objection was to use glade for modelling the GUI > instead of doing everything in python.
Yup. No Glade for TortoiseHg. > This effectively rejects changes 2 and 4 (major rework needed) > The thread is here - > http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=c50411aaaba377b34f3d.1219092640%40calcifer&forum_name=tortoisehg-develop > > Patches 1, 5, 6 could probably be tested individually right now if somebody > fixed the minor issues and resubmitted them. > > For screenshots of 1, 2, 3, and 4, see > http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/wiki/index.cgi/LinuxFileManagerIntegrationStatus > > Regards, > Peer > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It is the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB > _______________________________________________ > Tortoisehg-develop mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tortoisehg-develop > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It is the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB _______________________________________________ Tortoisehg-develop mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tortoisehg-develop
