Hi all. I've installed the v1.9 beta and congratulations on what's clearly weeks/months of effort.
I partially share John's concerns, however. I do like the idea of having a workbench available but I'm not clear of its position in the overall offering. I'd expect the windows explorer extensions to be shortcuts to specific views within the workbench - is that right? Since I've installed the Beta my Windows Exporer integration has stopped working but I haven't drilled into the reasons why yet - will let you know when I know. The "editor" of the filter bar seems very comprehensive, but just a bit of overkill. Might perhaps be worth making it available as an "Advanced Filter". I'd guess 99% of filters would be handled fine with a keyword search. I find switching between the previous revision and the "Working copy changes" views a bit of a jump. The filelist in the "commit" window is formatted differently (filenames in blue and generally more squished together). Also, the big box for comments above the file view itself might be worth styling differently. For previous revisions, I think the comment should be in with the "Changeset" dropdown - as its read-only. In the "Working Copy Changes" view I think the comment box needs a "Commit message" title so it's clear what the next step is. Perhaps also make the "Commit" button more prominent. Thanks for all your efforts. -----Original Message----- From: John Sparrow [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 06 December 2010 09:45 To: [email protected] Subject: [thg] Some thoughts on 1.9 beta I have been playing with the v1.9 beta released a few days ago. As always I'd like to thank everyone who donates their time to this great project! However, I am a little concerned about the current workbench layout (is it finalised?). For me the strength in a GUI is simplicity, and for version control I would hold TSVN up as a great example. Most windows are simple, task orientated and easy to learn. That is not to say many windows can't be folded together (I've always thought in Thg that commit, status, shelve etc could be folded into a single window). To me, the workbench currently seems cluttered and intimidating. There are too many controls and performing simple tasks is sometimes unclear. I'm concerned this may act as a barrier to entry for new users. After all, our main selling point over Git is probably "more straight-forward, easier to learn". While in v1.x it is possible to de-clutter the screens easily enough using the options, the fundamental premise of v2 seems to require more careful usability planning. Just as a trivial example (I haven't spent a lot of time formulating how to simplify the UI) - why make the filter bar visible the whole time? Why is this even an option, surely we can all do CTRL-F when we need to find something (or use a button) instead of cluttering up the screen? I know aesthetics are very subjective, and maybe I'm 100% off here. I would just be concerned that many big Hg/THg users won't even try the new UI until it's released, and then it will be very frustrating to unwind a lot of this. Can I just clarify, how would the workbench typically be used? Is a typical scenario that we leave it open all the time, going to the commit pane when we need to commit etc? But basically replacing Windows Explorer as an entry point? Thanks again Steve and co, for all your hard work. This is all meant very constructively! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ What happens now with your Lotus Notes apps - do you make another costly upgrade, or settle for being marooned without product support? Time to move off Lotus Notes and onto the cloud with Force.com, apps are easier to build, use, and manage than apps on traditional platforms. Sign up for the Lotus Notes Migration Kit to learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/salesforce-d2d _______________________________________________ Tortoisehg-discuss mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tortoisehg-discuss ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ What happens now with your Lotus Notes apps - do you make another costly upgrade, or settle for being marooned without product support? Time to move off Lotus Notes and onto the cloud with Force.com, apps are easier to build, use, and manage than apps on traditional platforms. Sign up for the Lotus Notes Migration Kit to learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/salesforce-d2d _______________________________________________ Tortoisehg-discuss mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tortoisehg-discuss
