I second that opinion. I have the beta installed in a VM and I think the UI
is a major regression. Some are minor regressions (like the add files dialog
asking me to explicitly confirm the files I want to add again, which is a
carry-over from a regression made in the GTK version) to major confusion
items (Like the combo box initially filled with gibberish, which turned out
to be the filters for file states ( "MAR!?S", in a combo box? I checked my
system locale. Seriously.) - and the work bench is extremely confusing. I
have one suggestion about the add files case, because IIRC someone on the
IRC channel said that was put in to accommodate behavior demanded by one
developer who would add a folder but want to selectively exclude some files
in it - aside from the fact that this dialog pops up even if I select, say,
three files then add them (in which case it is a useless confirmation step
for a completely reversible action - in other words unnecessary), can we
make that additional dialog an option triggered by, say, holding down Shift
when selecting the add option? I'd like to hear what people have to say
about this and the other points raised.

- Sherief

-----Original Message-----
From: John Sparrow [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:45 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [thg] Some thoughts on 1.9 beta


I have been playing with the v1.9 beta released a few days ago. As always
I'd like to thank everyone who donates their time to this great project!

However, I am a little concerned about the current workbench layout (is it
finalised?). For me the strength in a GUI is simplicity, and for version
control I would hold TSVN up as a great example. Most windows are simple,
task orientated and easy to learn. That is not to say many windows can't be
folded together (I've always thought in Thg that commit, status, shelve etc
could be folded into a single window).

To me, the workbench currently seems cluttered and intimidating. There are
too many controls and performing simple tasks is sometimes unclear. I'm
concerned this may act as a barrier to entry for new users. After all, our
main selling point over Git is probably "more straight-forward, easier to
learn". While in v1.x it is possible to de-clutter the screens easily enough
using the options, the fundamental premise of v2 seems to require more
careful usability planning.

Just as a trivial example (I haven't spent a lot of time formulating how to
simplify the UI) - why make the filter bar visible the whole time? Why is
this even an option, surely we can all do CTRL-F when we need to find
something (or use a button) instead of cluttering up the screen?

I know aesthetics are very subjective, and maybe I'm 100% off here. I would
just be concerned that many big Hg/THg users won't even try the new UI until
it's released, and then it will be very frustrating to unwind a lot of this.

Can I just clarify, how would the workbench typically be used? Is a typical
scenario that we leave it open all the time, going to the commit pane when
we need to commit etc? But basically replacing Windows Explorer as an entry
point?

Thanks again Steve and co, for all your hard work. This is all meant very
constructively!                                           
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