Hal ... Personally, I find Trac to be attractive and easy to use, but (a) I'm a programmer, and (b) I'm mostly comparing it to the tools I've used in the past, all of which looked and performed worse (most recently IBM Rational ClearQuest, BugTracker.NET, and Bugzilla).
I'm sure that the Trac developers want to have a good-looking product that is easily themed, but it's not enough to criticize the look and feel without giving concrete examples. For the benefit of those of us who haven't seen your "... tools with cleaner design and better usability", could you post some links and/or screen shots? What aspects of the design makes Trac "... quite difficult for business managers"? Is it strictly a look-and-feel issue, or are there specific features that are missing? - Craig - hal_robertson wrote: > I agree with your customer. Trac's interface and usability is great > for programmers, but quite difficult for business managers. The > problem becomes apparent when developers and other business units need > to interact, common in agile development team structures, which > ultimately hurts Trac's adoption. > > I have been a continually strong advocate for Trac in my development > teams. While we continue to hold strong onto Trac, for sure, basecamp > and other similar collaborative tools online have gotten the attention > and the popularity. Business managers view Trac as archaic compared > to newer collaboration tools with better usability and a cleaner user > interface design. I am getting constant pressure from other business > units to dump trac in favor of tools with cleaner design and better > usability. > > > > On Jun 22, 2:58 pm, David Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I have a customer who is unsatisfied with the default look-and-feel of >> Trac and wants to pay someone to improve it. In his words, "it has to >> be more attractive, or my domain experts, who are non-programmers, >> won't use it." I expect this job to involve some graphic design, some >> CSS, possibly some Genshi template work, and probably some javascript >> to add slick responsiveness. >> >> For best results the designer should have at least some Trac 0.11 >> knowledge, starting with Genshi -- so that s/he is familiar with the >> problem domain and I'm not left having to integrate the results into >> the Trac sourcebase -- and, most importantly, **excellent webGUI and >> graphic design skills**. >> >> I'm excited about this project because it could result in real overall >> usability improvements for Trac. If you know the person for this job, >> or if you yourself /are/ that person, please send me an email. >> >> Thanks, >> >> -- >> Dave Abrahams >> Boost Consultinghttp://www.boost-consulting.com >> >> The Astoria Seminar ==>http://www.astoriaseminar.com >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Trac Users" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
