--- In [email protected], James Ewen <ve6...@...> wrote:
>
> Chris,
> 
> Have you read the background information on SmartBeaconing yet?
> 
> I think you're going to be fighting an uphill battle on this one.
> 
> What I would do first, is to measure the data that is output from your
> GPS. Put a logging system on the GPS, and record the reported speed
> and heading values over a long period of time, say 24 hours or so
> while the GPS is sitting still.
> 
> Now have a look at that data. Is the unit reliably reporting zero
> velocity, and a constant heading? Probably not.
> 
> The generally recommended low speed threshold is about 5 mph. This
> allows for some "drift" of the reported GPS location.
> 
> Also, if the GPS is reporting a location, and a heading zero degrees
> (as an example), and then resolves a location some distance south of
> that first location, you're going to get a reported velocity and a
> heading of 180 degrees. That heading change will trigger
> CornerPegging.
> 
> If the GPS doesn't have a nice clear view of the sky, then you
> location fix is going to be worse, and subsequently more "wandering".
> 
> Slow speed settings for SmartBeaconing are an issue, not due to the
> programming, but rather due to the "noise" of the GPS position
> reporting.
> 
> Think of the low speed settings you have as a "squelch" knob. You've
> opend up the squelch to where the noise on the frequency is popping in
> and out, or has opened the squelch setting completely, and now are
> wondering why you're hearing all that racket. You either have to
> tighten the squelch a bit, or reduce the incoming noise level to make
> it quiet again.
> 
> As others have indicated, profile switching can also be a problem,
> especially if you are trying to switch based on extremely tight
> tolerances. If you have profile switching where one profile is enabled
> at zero velocity, and the other at 4 mph, you could bounce between the
> two profiles due to GPS "wandering". You need to have enough
> hysteresis to keep from bouncing back and forth between profiles.
> 
> Using a routine that sends after a maximum change in location is
> better for pedestrian activity.
> 
> Why the desire for a double beacon on a corner? You've reported the
> change in heading (the important information), a second beacon is
> redundant.
> 
> James
> VE6SRV
> 
> On 7/29/10, Bob Poortinga <bobp+ya...@...> wrote:
> >> I was experimenting with a low speed Smart Beacon Profile on a T2 (with
> >> integrated 5W VHF transceiver) and encountered an unexpectedly high
> >> beaconing rate when parked.
> >
> > Are you using Profile Switching?  Do you have "Transmit when swiching to
> > this
> > profile" enabled?  If so, turn it off.
> >
> >> My settings were as follows:
> >>
> >> Slow Speed: 0.0 MPH   TX rate:  7193 sec
> >> High Speed:   4 MPH   TX rate:    61 sec
> >> Turn angle:  15 deg   Max TX rate: 3 sec
> >>
> >> The shallow turn angle and fast TX rate was set to see if I could reliably
> >> double beacon on street corners.
> >
> > Why?  This just adds QRM to the channel.
> >
> > --
> > Bob Poortinga  K9SQL        <http://www.linkedin.com/in/bobpoortinga>
> > Bloomington, Indiana  US
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
>
Bob,

To answer your last question first.  I am interested in double beaconing on 
corners because only ~40% of my beacons are received in my area.  If I double 
beacon, I can increase the probability that one beacon is heard to ~75%, while 
the probability that both beacons are heard is only ~15%.  If I can increase 
the probability of corner pegging I can increase the length of time between 
ordinary beacons.

I have looked at what smart beaconing documentation is available and I have 
also graphed the behavior using excel to better visualize how distance between 
beacons varies as a function of speed and beacon rate.  The expected behavior 
of my profile was that beaconing would be once every 2 hours when parked and 
rapidly increase to once per minute a 5MPH and above.  However I observed an 
average beacon rate when stopped of once every 37 sec which is a higher than 
the MAX rate defined in my profile of once per 60 seconds.

While I can't easily log the output of the GPS, I can log the received beacons 
on http://aprs.fi.  I was transmitting speed data. The speed that was received 
while the high beacon rate was occurring was 0 MPH.

Currently I am in the process of attempting to reproduce the anomaly.  So far 
beaconing has been stable for 3.5h at 10 min/beacon with a 33% beacon received 
rate (7 RCV out of 21 TX).

Current settings are:

Slow Speed: 2 MPH  Slow TX rate: 600 sec
High Speed: 4 MPH  Fast TX rate: 127 sec
Turn Angle:  25 deg
Max TX rate:  5 sec

New settings are:

Slow Speed: 0 MPH  Slow TX rate: 600 sec
High Speed: 4 MPH  Fast TX rate: 127 sec
Turn Angle:  25 deg
Max TX rate:  5 sec

PS.  I should have done this  testing before I posted


Chris
KF7FIR








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