In retrospect, I am rewording my previous email to be more concise. The "D8" code allows only date formats of CCYYMMDD, thus HIPAA's maximum the length for this field is 8 characters.
The "RD8" code allows only date format of CCYYMMDD-CCYYMMDD, thus HIPAA's maximum length for this field is 17 characters. Per X12, all DTP03 codes have a maximum length of 35 characters. To be HIPAA compliant when the DTP02 field is coded as "D8" a valid transaction must be sent with 8 characters of numeric data. To be HIPAA compliant when the DTP02 field is coded as "RD8" a valid transaction must be sent with 17 characters of numeric data. Therefore, to save space in your internal files/copybooks you can define DTP03 fields that are sent with a DTP02 of "D8" as 8 characters and a DTP02 of "RD8" as 17 characters. This will save space as you are not defining these fields to be 35 characters in your internal systems. Hope Furtado Corporate Information Architect TM Floyd & Company (800)780-1170 extension 129 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -----Original Message----- > From: Rachel Foerster [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 11:36 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: DTP Date Field Length > > Data element #1251 used in the DTP segment is specified by the X12 > standards > to be an alphanumeric datatype with a minimum/maximum number of characters > of 1/35. HIPAA does not specific a different maximum number of characters, > and especially the HIPAA guides do not specific a greater number of > maximum > characters than allowed by the underlying X12 standard. > > Rachel Foerster > Principal > Rachel Foerster & Associates, Ltd. > Professionals in EDI & Electronic Commerce > 39432 North Avenue > Beach Park, IL 60099 > Phone: 847-872-8070 > Fax: 847-872-6860 > http:/www.rfa-edi.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hope Furtado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 7:45 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Hope Furtado > Subject: RE: DTP Date Field Length > > > Donna, > > Many of our clients, that are health plans, have made the decision to > keep their field lengths equal to the HIPAA maximum length for codes of > "D8" > and "RD8". When you account for all the possible loops and segment > repeat > information for the HIPAA transactions, keeping the Date field lengths to > the HIPAA maximum, instead of the X12 maximum saves a significant amount > of > space. > > I hope this information is helpful. Please feel free to contact me if you > have any questions. > > Hope Furtado > Corporate Information Architect > TM Floyd & Company > (800)780-1170 extension 129 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Hayward, Donna M B230 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 7:26 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: DTP Date Field Length > > > > > > In the 837 Implementation Guide(s) all dates are in a 35 byte DTP03 > field > > format. There are only two qualifiers available for use, 'D8' - date > > expressed in CCYYMMDD format or 'RD8' - date range expressed in > CCYYMMDD > > - > > CCYYMMDD format. We have expanded every date field on our internal > common > > claim record to support the maximum field length of 35 bytes however, we > > question how / when all 35 bytes would ever be populated. > > > > Any idea? Thanks. > > > > Donna M. Hayward > > A CIGNA HealthCare - EDI GATEWAY HIPAA Project Manager > > * Bloomfield: 860.226.3134 Ntwk: 572-3134 Fax: 860.226.7573 > > * e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > "Passionately committed to making every experience with CIGNA HealthCare > > positive and highly satisfying. For everyone. Every time." > > > > The information contained in this e-mail may be confidential and is > > intended > > solely for the use of the named addressee. Access, copying or re-use of > > the > > e-mail or any information contained therein by any other person is not > > authorized. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us > > immediately by returning the e-mail to the originator. 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