Cindy,

I'm questioning the interpretation you noted.  Yep, page 25 does have a
little problem as there is a typo (indicates HL02=21 when it should be
HL03=21);  however, my interpretation of this paragraph is different.  What
I come away with is regardless of who the Information Receiver (requestor)
is (service bureau, clearinghouse, or provider)the HL03 response for the
Information Receiver will always be "21".  Even when the Information
Receiver also is the Service Provider.  Additionally, when I look at the
Information Receiver HL segment (Loop 2000B) the only valid response for
Loop 2000B HL03 is "21" (page 61).   I'm not quite sure how you could report
"19" at Loop 2000B HL03 when it's not reflected as a valid response for that
Loop segment combination.  "19" is only listed as a valid response for the
Service Provider level, Loop 2000C HL03 (page 66).  Am I missing something?

Cindy Monarch, CPC
MPHI HIPAA Business Analyst



-----Original Message-----
From: Cindy Gerber
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Sent: 10/08/2002 3:21 PM
Subject: RE: Information Receiver in 276 vs 270

I should have clarified this in my first post - it might make it easier.

On page 25 of the implementation guide, v4010, The 3rd paragraph refers
to
the value of HL03 for the info requester and service provider.  There
appears to be a typographical error as the last 2 sentences don't make
sense.  I asked about this at a local meeting we have to discuss
transactions (HCIM).  

We interpreted this to mean that if the requester is also the provider,
HL03
should be valued with "19" at both the requester and provider levels.
If
the requester is not the servicing provider, the HL03 value for the info
requester would be "21", and the value for the service provider level
would
be "19".

Hope this helps!

Cindy Gerber
MCare, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Cindy Gerber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 3:03 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Information Receiver in 276 vs 270


My understanding is that the information receiver can be a
clearinghouse,
provider, provider group, employer, etc.  If the information is
requested
via a clearinghouse, on behalf of a provider, the response still goes
back
to the requester (clearinghouse) who would then have to pass the
information
back to the provider.

The information source is the payer.

Cindy Gerber
MCare, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sparma, Deborah, nashccon
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:38 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Information Receiver in 276 vs 270


Can anyone clarify the who the information receiver is in the 276. The
270
defines the Information Receiver as the entity who is asking the
questions -
physician, hospital another insurer. So if the transaction is being sent
through a clearinghouse, I understand this to mean that the information
receiver is NOT the clearinghouse information.

I thought I could apply this same logic in the 276, however, the 276
defines
the information receiver as the entity who is expecting the response
from
the information source - provider, employer or clearinghouse. Therefore,
I
understand this to mean that if a provider sends the 276 transaction
through
a clearinghouse, then the information receiver would actually be the
clearinghouse information, not the provider who is actually the one
asking
the claim status request.

I would like to use the Information Receiver information in the 276 the
same
way as in the 270, but I don't know if I can.

Does anyone else have a point of view?

Thanks,
Deborah Sparma


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