I would probably be 2000 elements per class.

Mark

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Dorioo <[email protected]> wrote:

> I set maxelementsinmemory to 2000 for both the object and template cache.
> No other changes beside setting those values.
>
> Although, the thought dawned on me today whether that value was being used
> overall or per class. Still, too many variables right now. User error, beta
> coldbox, beta transfer, and CF9 bit me in the butt with that "local" problem
> so I'm considering it a variable as well.
>
> - Gabriel
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Mark Mandel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> How much had you configured your CF9 eHCache instance?
>>
>> Or had you left it so lots of stuff got cached?
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 1:50 AM, Dorioo <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm ending this experiment for now and using the default ehCache
>>> provider. Over time, the experimental CF9 cache provider led to out of
>>> memory issues.
>>>
>>> Biggest Top-Level Dominator Classes: coldfusion.runtime.TemplateProxy
>>> (77.62% retained heap)
>>> Biggest Top-Level Dominator Class Loaders: 
>>> coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapClassLoader
>>> (92.04% retained heap)
>>>
>>>
>>> - Gabriel
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Dorioo <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Found the cause. The appender was defining "getScope()" and returning
>>>> "none". This makes sense in the "NoCache" appender but makes no sense in a
>>>> real appender.
>>>>
>>>> It's not even one of the "VirtualMethodException" functions mentioned by
>>>> Mark so need to define it. Removed it and back to "so far, so good".
>>>>
>>>> - Gabriel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Dorioo <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> hmm. Cache not updating on many to one updates unless parent explicitly
>>>>> discarded.
>>>>>
>>>>> :( Back to testing.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Gabriel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Dorioo <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A. Yup, that's what I'm referring to. :-) I don't want to be
>>>>>> responsible for calling shutdown().
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What was bothering me is the case where say, you're reinitlizating
>>>>>> your app, transfer gets loaded, and a bad error happens that stops the
>>>>>> initialization process midway. You're then left with an instance of 
>>>>>> ehcache
>>>>>> and no way to shut it down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Granted this should be an edge exception in production but led me to
>>>>>> this experiment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> B. Attached is what I have so far. It's all cache and no statistics
>>>>>> but maybe others will find it useful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    1. The CF9 object cache is _not_ exclusive to this provider so I
>>>>>>    didn't incorporate any settings for the cache. Those should be set 
>>>>>> elsewhere
>>>>>>    in your app using CacheSetProperties()
>>>>>>    2. Currently extends
>>>>>>    "transfer.com.cache.provider.AbstractBaseProvider" so it's assuming 
>>>>>> you have
>>>>>>    a "/transfer" mapping. Change as needed
>>>>>>    3. ShutDown() simulates the existing ehCache implementation by
>>>>>>    discarding all related objects. However, if this call were to fail or 
>>>>>> never
>>>>>>    be called, the object themselves timeout and so they'll eventually be 
>>>>>> purged
>>>>>>    regardless of whether shutdown() fails or is never called.
>>>>>>    4. Usage example below where timeSpan and idleTime are minutes,
>>>>>>    required, and are explained in the CF9's CachePut() function.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <defaultcache
>>>>>> provider="transfer.path.to.this.file.antCF9CacheProvider">
>>>>>>      <setting name="timeSpan" value="30"/>
>>>>>>      <setting name="idleTime" value="15"/>
>>>>>> </defaultcache>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Gabriel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Mark Mandel 
>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:34 AM, Dorioo <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Main benefit I was looking for is not having to manage the ehCache
>>>>>>>> instance myself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You know the eHCache provider in Transfer manages this for you? You
>>>>>>> just call .shutdown() on transfer, and the ehCache Cache is shutdown
>>>>>>> properly. No more management than that necessary.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I fail to properly shutdown an ehcache instance, it remains in
>>>>>>>> memory. Using the CF9 object cache, I simulate a "shutdown" by 
>>>>>>>> discarding
>>>>>>>> all of the objects in the CF9 object cache that begin with my providers
>>>>>>>> naming prefix. And if that were to fail for any reason, the objects
>>>>>>>> themselves have a timeout and would be purged in time anyway by CF9.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Obvious limitations are with the limited ways in which CF9 allows
>>>>>>>> you to interact with its object cache but so far it's looking viable 
>>>>>>>> for my
>>>>>>>> needs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When you get it finished, feel free to post it to the list, and I can
>>>>>>> add it as a cache provider in Transfer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
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