On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Dwayne Bailey <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 11:17 +0700, Nguyen Vu Hung wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> > PS: you might also adapt the sed lines if the 'guillemets' are
>> > followed by a space (or non-breaking space) for the opening one and
>> > preceeded by a space for the closing one....just as it is done in
>> > French, for instance. You might also want to check that double quotes
>> > is the official typographical convention for Vietnamese but I guess
>> > you already did (I would wirtually kill anyone suggesting such
>> > replacement for French...:-))
>> As far as I know, Vietnamese doesn't use guillemets,
>> and the usages of single quotation and double quotation are different.
>> Therefore, when we replace guillemets with double quotations,
>> we still need to double check the output.
>
> 'As far as I know'??? Please be very sure of these things.
Yes, I am sure.
> There are many other Vietnamese translations and almost all of them use
> guillemets.
Clytie Siddall (she is on the list) uses gullemets, which is a wrong
thing to do.
Trust me.
She is also the person who has translated gnome. Unfortunately, it
seems like that
Clytie Siddall has been retired and I don't think she is reading our emails.
> So much so that we have rules in Translate Toolkit that can
> check that quotes are correctly turned into guillemets. Because of the
> French-Vietnamese colonial heritage we can inherit these and other
> punctuations rules from French.
Please don't attack the straw man :D.
> What you are suggesting completely
> eliminates the value that those offer Vietnamese translator.
As I said above.
> I'm not saying don't do it, styles change and these things need to be
> adapted. But your uncertainty didn't fill me with confidence. So go do
> some research before hacking those all out.
Since the invention of PC until the time when Unicode was invented,
there were no guillimets in Vietnamese and now, double quotations become
the *de-factor standard*.
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Best Regards,
Nguyen Hung Vu [aka: NVH] ( in Vietnamese: Nguyễn Vũ Hưng )
vuhung16plus{[email protected] , YIM: vuhung16 , Skype: vuhung16dg
A brief profile: http://www.hn.is.uec.ac.jp/~vuhung/Nguyen.Vu.Hung.html
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