Hallo zusammen, zur Info: das Kubuntu-Doku-Team bittet nun offiziell um unsere Mithilfe. Liest von den Kubuntu-DE-Leuten noch jemand mit? Ansonsten wäre ich wohl der einzige, der sich noch um Kubuntu kümmert …
Grüße, Moritz ---------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ---------- Betreff: [Bug 472668] Re: bad diction in english original makes translation difficult or impossible Datum: Samstag, 25. September 2010, 20:53:51 Von: Jonathan Jesse <jje...@gmail.com> An: flamin...@online.de Moritz If you are interested in helping out with the Kubuntu docs we need all the help we can get... join us on #ubuntu-docs and reach out to either DarkwingDuck or myself (jjesse). also feel free to send me an email (jjesse AT gmail DOT com) on things we need help with for Natty. Or you could just send the proposed changes to myself in a .diff format that I can apply to the branch -- bad diction in english original makes translation difficult or impossible https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/472668 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. Status in “kubuntu-docs” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Binary package hint: kubuntu-docs The english texts in Kubuntu-docs have sometimes really bad diction which makes translation into german (and I am sure into any other language) nearly impossible. Example: »You may also wish to increase the number of programs available to install through your package managers. Not all the programs that exist for Kubuntu are installed by default.« which is in the middle of nowhere in between a description of package managers. What does it mean? Does it mean that the user can increase the number of installable packages by using a package manager? Or does it mean that a user can increase the number of available packages if he wants? Or does it maybe mean something else I am not aware of? The diction itself requires heavy changes on the context, to get a satisfying result in german. Additional the diction is not clear cut (what does it mean?). So the result is awful in german. This is just a single and simple example of one english text which is dicted in a bad way. Surely there are many more texts which are dicted worse than that. So please guys, be a bit thoughtful about the translators and formulate the texts a bit nicer in more commonly used words, avoid involved periods (which is a big problem too in Kubuntu-Docs) and follow the guidelines on help-texts. Another problem is the always repeated description to the user how to start/open a certain application. Example: »Software Management is launched through the Kickoff Application Launcher at <menuchoice><guimenu>Kickoff Application Launcher</guimenu><guisubmenu>Applications</guisubmenu><guisubmenu>System</guisubmenu><guimenuitem>Software Management (KPackageKit)</guimenuitem></menuchoice>.« in the above text you see the description (between <menuchoice> and </menuchoice>). This is the first description in the help-text. In the following strings which describe tasks, involving the package manager, there is always repeatedly described how to open the package Manager. This is not necessary as for example the Ubuntu-docs show. It is also annoying to read for the user. And it is annoying and frustrating for the translator. So please do not repeat the steps for opening/ starting applications resp. files over and over. Thanks and best regards Steffen To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs/+bug/472668/+subscribe -------------------------------------------------------------
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