Thanks all for the thoughtful discussion and the translation assistance. More are obviously welcome.
Yours, Chris Koerner Community Liaison Wikimedia Foundation On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 7:21 AM, Philippe Verdy <[email protected]> wrote: > PDF format is not necessarily available on all mobiles. PDF readers tend > to use themselves too much space and requires frequent updates, or > frequently contain too many ads (some of them even require to have an > Internet connection before using them, as they want to share what you > download and extensive profiling data for who is reading documents that > these apps actually did not create, and then insert targetted ads related > to the PDF contents. > If one wants really mobility (i.e. offline reading) there are better > formats that are less intrusive, and whose readers are both safer, with > much less unnecessariy plugins such as online form editors or cloud > printing or reshares on social networks. > > "ebooks" formats (or core HTML, not requiring active scripts and online > APIs, or even TXT) are usually better suited for mobility: they have the > advantage of being suitable for all screen sizes (not the case of PDFs > whose page layout is static, and that requires constant zooming, and > horizontal panning to read them on most smartphones: a PDF is only suitable > on smartphones for a single page (letter or A4 max). Even MS Office .doc[x] > are easier to use on smartphones (there's a free viewer for it, and it's > really small, faster and much more secure than most PDF readers, including > the Reader made by Adobe, and which is still not workiong correctly on many > smartphones as they require excessive privileges or frequently depend on > tricky/unsupported/unstable APIs of the mobile OS, or are supproted only on > the most recent versions of these OSes; Adobe Reader for smartphones is > also too frequently targetted by third party apps that want to modify its > behavior by adding their own hooks that Adobe Reader uses without any > question)! > > I don't have any PDF reader on my smartphone. I have only the old one that > was preinstalled but that I have blocked completely (againsst all updates > and all its autostarted services). If I need a PDF, I'll download and read > it on my PC, or I'll save it to Google Drive and Google will render it and > allow me to view it without activating many services and third-party > plugins. This is rare: I do that only to view some billing or purchase > order, but I won't store any PDF on my smartphone. > > MediaWiki should better support the exports as eBooks formats, but the PDF > format is the worst one for mobiles, including in terms of accessibility. > > > 2017-11-16 13:10 GMT+01:00 Sylvain Chiron <[email protected]>: > >> From my point of view, ‘PDF’ is an important piece of the title which >> should really appear in the translation, but you might know what you’re >> doing. ‘Print to PDF’ can actually be translated like ‘output as pdf’ >> (or even ‘get as pdf’ here) which is the best for French. >> >> Regards, >> >> Sylvain Chiron >> Translator for French >> >> Le 16/11/2017 à 00:04, Anoop Rao a écrit : >> > Done Kannada language >> > >> > I have changed title ( *New print to pdf feature for mobile web >> > readers* ) in translation as (new print feature for mobile web readers) >> > thinking it would be suitable, since when translated your title might >> > also mean :: new/secondary print version to PDF feature for mobile web >> > readers :: >> > >> > >> > On 16-Nov-2017 3:55 am, "Chris Koerner" <[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> > Hello, >> > The Readers team at the foundation has created an easier way to >> > download pdfs of articles from a mobile device. We would like to >> > tell people about this. Offline PDFs are helpful when Internet >> > access is not consistent. Please help translate this message. >> > >> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:CKoerner_(WMF)/Mobile_PDF >> > <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:CKoerner_(WMF)/Mobile_PDF> >> > >> > Thank you for your help! >> > >> > Yours, >> > Chris Koerner >> > Community Liaison >> > Wikimedia Foundation >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Translators-l mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]> >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l >> > <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l> >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Translators-l mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Translators-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Translators-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l > >
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