Chris,

Your answer is partly correct.  However, the current UK law as embodied in 
BABT's Licence Regulations makes no distinction in approval procedure between 
those products which fall under the scope of a CTR and those that do not.  
National approvals are granted following Annex I assessment against the 
relevant "essential requirements", which are listed in the recently published 
UK NTR standards.

The original UK implementation was as you state, however this has been 
modified to be in alignment with the way that other Member States have adopted
the Directive into national law.  It is also interesting to note that certain 
major European countries have yet to implement 91/263/EEC into national law, 
and as a result have been served with 169 notices from the Commission.

Roger, I suggest that you read the national approval regulations of each 
Member State rather than assuming that the Directive has any verbatim 
legislative standing.  See also the definitive guide to all such issues and 
much more on national procedures - The European Approvals Manual.  Email 
[email protected] for further details.

Ynyr Roberts
InterConnect Communications


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From: internet!3mail.3Com.COM!Chris_Brearley (Chris Brearley/US/3Com)
Subject: RE: Telecom Directive, Annex I-IV
To: internet!phx.sectel.mot.com!prenger (Roger Prenger)
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Roger,
I think your answer is found in the national laws for the different countries.
 
If you look at the UK Telecommunications Terminal Equipment Regulations 1992 
(SI #2423), Part 1 section 2 (1).
"Sections 22 and 84 of the Telecommunications Act 1984 and approvals given 
under either of those sections shall cease to apply to applicable terminal 
equipment on 6th Nov 1992"

and section 4 (3)
"Terminal equipment in respect of which no common technical regulation is in 
force shall not be applicable terminal equipment; and for the purpose of these
Regulations, a common technical regulation shall not be taken to be in force 
in 
respect of any terminal equipment, until the date specified in it from which 
it 
shall be applied."

This implys that, in the case of the UK, the Telecommunications Act of 1984 is
applicable for any terminal equipment for which there is no CTR (i.e., revert 
back to national requirements).  I don't know about other countries, but I 
would imagine that there would be something similar in the national law of all
the countries.  Anyone else know?

Regarding your second question, the ETSI web page 
(http://www.etsi.fr/dir/infocentre/info.htm) gives lists of standards recently
adopted etc... It only gives the titles of the standards though, not a 
description of the scope.

rgds,
chris
[email protected]

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From: prenger @ phx.sectel.mot.com (Roger Prenger) @ UGATE    
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Date: Tuesday  May 7, 1996 10:48 AM
Subject: RE: Telecom Directive, Annex I-IV
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Treggers,

>Think about it - if there isn't a CTR then the TTE Directive doesn't apply, 
>and National requirements will take precedence.
>
>Regards,
>Alan

I am wary of this answer. Article 1, Paragragh 1 of the Telecom directive 
states "This Directive shall apply to terminal equipment." There is no 
exclusion for terminal equipment without a specified type or CTR. I agree
without a CTR, National requirements take precedence for connection approval;
however, I do not think this absolves us from the TTE directive, more 
specifically Article 9, as cited below. Especially in view of the fact that
the CE mark for Telecom requires a Notified Body's insignia (Article 11,
Paragragh 1). Since the EMC and Low Voltage directives allow self-declaration,
the only demand for a Notified Body's participation is from Article 9.

More input is respectfully requested,

roger
[email protected]

"All men die. Not every man really lives."
 - William Wallace, 'Braveheart' 


> ----------
>From: treg-approval
>To: treg
>Subject: Telecom Directive, Annex I-IV
>Date: 06 May 1996 16:20
>
>Telecom Directive, Article 9, Paragraph 1 states:
>
>...terminal equipment shall be subject to either the EC type-examination,
>as described in Annex I, or to the EC declaration of conformity, as 
>described
>in Annex IV.
>
>Telecom Directive, Annex I, Paragraph 4.3 states:
>
>...to check that the type meets the relevant common technical regulations
>specified...
>
>Q1. Does this mean that we have to go through Annex IV, if there is no
>    CTR (common technical regulation) relevant to our product?
>
>Q2. Where can I get a list of the current CTR's and interim CTR's and
>    descriptions of their scope so I can determine if our product is
>    indeed covered somewhere? "Anything Online?" he queried, hoping to
>    save a tree or two.
>
>Thanks,
>
>roger
>[email protected]
>
>"Family is just who you're with and how you treat 'em."
> - Grace, from Grace Under Fire.
>
>



  

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