A well known EMC consultant in Silicon Valley who is now employed in a 
     well known company here presented (when he was still an independent 
     consultant) a very well justified case to show that the total 
     uncertainties for EMC test equipment, site attenuation, weather, 
     manufacturing tolerances, operator variances, test methodology, etc., 
     were such that a minimum 6 dB margin is justified.  10 dB would be 
     better.  
     
     Lets hear it from all of you other consultants, since, I suspect, many 
     in this industry would not like to proclaim publicly just what the 
     situation is in our companies.
     
     Tania Grant, Octel Communications Corporation
     [email protected]


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Subject: dBmargin
Author:  [email protected] at P_Internet_mail
List-Post: [email protected]
Date:    10/9/96 2:59 PM


I don't know about all of you, but I am sick of arguing with
hardware engineering managers about what constitutes
a passing EMC test and what does not.

I have seen companies impose a 6dB margin requirement,
some 5 dB, and some 3dB.

I have made the recommendation that the minimum here
should be 3dB.  I thought that this was fair.  Now comes
the product that has 2.8dB margin.  Being a stick by the
rules type of person, I listened to the engineer explain
that it was the lousy PC his card was in not his card.  So
I suggested that we prove his theory, purchase a new
machine and check the old machine versus the new
one and if there is an improvement, that I would let
the 2.8dB stand.

Of course the manager of the group tells me that as
a recommendation 3dB is good, but as a rule it
is IRRESPONSIBLE.  Thus I end up with the "be
a b___ch" option of imposing the retest for the .2dB
or starting a precedence of well if .2 is okay, is .3 etc.
etc.

What I would like to do is take a pole.  (must  be election
year in the USA!!!!!!!!!!!)  I would like all of you to respond
as to what you feel is appropriate. Then I'll run the
stats and let you what the results are.  This way I can
go back to the manager with the number of certification
experts that responded and what they thought was right.

He or I  will have a hard time arguing against stats.
(I am open to the possibility that I am wrong and
0 margin is acceptable).

Just reply with a number and I'll let you know what happens.

Thanks
Cynthia

[email protected]

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