Max, Your points highlight a needed flexibility within our ranks. Blatant advertising (like some of the stuff you see on Internet Web pages w/flashing banners, etc.) are annoying to say the least. However, I believe it to counterproductive to restrict forum members from announcing an opportunity to attend a useful seminar which may not be full and the like. Instead, this should be seen as a service to us all. Of course, as it is with all things, abuses can occur. When that becomes obvious, we should do the appropriate thing.
I have just a couple of comments related to your message which I think might be useful to the forum. BTW, I am not presently a consultant... but know one fairly well. re: consultant's contributions (or lack thereof) Perhaps the lack of contributions may be because they are "on the road" for the simple reason that they are good at what they do and lack opportunity to stay in sync with what is going on this forum. re: detailed vs. abstract information Try giving a meaningful seminar that will fit everyone's needs in a reasonable time w/o being too difficult for some and boring for the rest. Typically, the broadest response comes from folks who need the more basic stuff. Looking at it from a business point of view, the more attendees you have, the lower cost you can offer them to attend. re: "old basic stuff" Perhaps the consultants are telling us something here... Could it be that from their point of view and from all the clients they see... its the "old basic stuff" that is greatly needed. From my own experience (over 15 years in EMC design or related activities), the answers are always simple once the problem is properly "modeled" and identified. (That's not to say that the "answer's" implementation was always easy, though.) Even most of the "complicated" problems were merely combinations of "basic stuff" arranged in different ways usually to make you scratch your head for a day or two. From my point of view, the really tough stuff doesn't come along that often. re: exchange...for privileges, etc. I think it is best the way it is. No overt or blatant advertising w/o being militant about enforcement unless obvious abuse occurs. Let the forum be open to those who care to use it without encumbering the process of free discussion with too many restrictions. When one makes too many "laws", it becomes too easy for one to become an "outlaw". For what its worth..... Regards, Michael E. Vrbanac > > I would vote to allow a continuation of posting of EMC/safety seminars. > This is valuable information and Henry Ott, for instance, is certainly a > prestigious contributor to the field. > > On the flip side, though, I believe that EMC and safety consultants have > some obligation to make contributions to this forum and it seems like > they never do. In addition, the papers they submit to the journals seem > to sometimes lack the detailed information that would make them useful > in a practical sense. > > Even in their seminars some of these experts seem to prefer to simply > grind out the same old basic and abstract stuff while saving the more > useful information for some "special" or "separate" seminar costing > still more money. > > The bottom line, I guess, is that we should start asking them to > participate in this forum, when appropriate, in exchange for advertising > privileges. I suggest members should also provide negative feedback on > seminars that don't provide practical, useful information, substantiated > by emissions tests. > > Max Kelson > [email protected] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Hulbert [SMTP:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 8:56 AM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re[2]: Upcoming EMC Seminar > > > According to the Charter and Guidelines (10 March > 1995) > "blatant or > overt advertising of goods or services is not > permitted". > I think > this is a good rule. This should not be a forum > for "free" > > advertising. There are plenty of other appropriate > avenues > for people > to advertise their goods and services. > > Jim Hulbert > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator > _________________________________ > Subject: Re: Upcoming EMC Seminar > Author: "Richard Cass" <[email protected]> > at > SMTPGWY > Date: 2/10/98 8:21 AM > > > I thought that blatant advertising of services, > including > FOR PROFIT > seminars, was not allowed on EMC-PSTC forum. Am I > wrong? > > Regards, > Richard Cass > > > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator > _________________________________ > Subject: Upcoming EMC Seminar > Author: [email protected] at INTERNET > Date: 2/10/98 4:29 AM > > > We just wanted to take this opportunity to let every one > know > that there are > still a few seats available to attend the EMC Seminar > being > presented by Mr. > Henry Ott and hosted by RhienTexas, Inc. For further > information > check out the > web page at www.rheintech.com/seminar.html. Those of you > that > wish to attend > are urged to register by Febrauary 20, 1998. > > There is a correction that must be noted about the > information > provided on the > above web page, the price for this two day seminar is > not $750 > it is $675 per > participant. > > Thank you, > Murrell Waldron > RhienTexas, Inc. > 1701 E Plano Pkwy, Suite 150 > Plano, TX 75074 > > P: 972-509-2566 > F: 972-509-0073 > email: [email protected] > > > >
