I would like to discuss the flip side as indicated below.

Consultants and companies own what is called intellectual property.  It
is knowledge or processes gained through the sweat of costly
investigations and trial and error.  This is a possession with value.
All too often I see company information freely given over this net.  If
this is OK with your company so be it.    

Consultants have only intellectual property to sell, information which
is of value to other people or companies.   If they give up too much
information on this net what do they have left to sell?  My point is no
person has any obligation to give up intellectual property without due
compensation.  We are lucky to have such a forum and we should be
thankful for the generous contributions.

Dave George 
Unisys Corp.

> ----------
> From:         [email protected][SMTP:[email protected]]
> Sent:         Wednesday, February 11, 1998 5:12 PM
> To:   [email protected]; Max Kelson
> Subject:      Re[4]: Upcoming EMC Seminar 
> 
>      I second Max's presentation.
>      Bogdan.
>      [email protected]
> 
> 
> ______________________________ Reply Separator
> _________________________________
> Subject: RE: Re[2]: Upcoming EMC Seminar 
> Author:  Max Kelson <[email protected]> at Internet
> Date:    2/11/98 2:04 PM
> 
> 
> I would vote to allow a continuation of posting of EMC/safety
> seminars.
> This is valuable information and Henry Ott, for instance, is certainly
> a
> prestigious contributor to the field.
> 
> On the flip side, though, I believe that EMC and safety consultants
> have
> some obligation to make contributions to this forum and it seems like
> they never do.  In addition, the papers they submit to the journals
> seem
> to sometimes lack the detailed information that would make them useful
> in a practical sense.  
> 
> Even in their seminars some of these experts seem to prefer to simply
> grind out the same old basic and abstract stuff while saving the more
> useful information for some "special" or "separate" seminar costing
> still more money.
> 
> The bottom line, I guess, is that we should start asking them to
> participate in this forum, when appropriate, in exchange for
> advertising
> privileges.  I suggest members should also provide negative feedback
> on
> seminars that don't provide practical, useful information,
> substantiated
> by emissions tests. 
> 
> Max Kelson
> [email protected]
> 
>  
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Jim Hulbert [SMTP:[email protected]]
>   Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 8:56 AM
>   To: [email protected]; [email protected]
>   Subject: Re[2]: Upcoming EMC Seminar 
> 
> 
>        According to the Charter and Guidelines (10 March
> 1995)
>  "blatant or 
>        overt advertising of goods or services is not
> permitted".
>  I think 
>        this is a good rule.  This should not be a forum
> for "free"
> 
>        advertising. There are plenty of other appropriate
> avenues
>  for people 
>        to advertise their goods and services.
>        
>        Jim Hulbert
> 
> 
>   ______________________________ Reply Separator
>  _________________________________
>   Subject: Re: Upcoming EMC Seminar 
>   Author:  "Richard Cass" <[email protected]>
> at
>  SMTPGWY
>   Date:    2/10/98 8:21 AM
> 
> 
>        I thought that blatant advertising of services,
> including
>  FOR PROFIT 
>        seminars, was not allowed on EMC-PSTC forum.  Am I
> wrong?
>        
>        Regards,
>        Richard Cass
>        
>        
>        
>        
>   ______________________________ Reply Separator
>  _________________________________
>   Subject: Upcoming EMC Seminar
>   Author:  [email protected] at INTERNET 
>   Date:    2/10/98 4:29 AM
>        
>        
>   We just wanted to take this opportunity to let every one
> know
>  that there are 
>   still a few seats available to attend the EMC Seminar
> being
>  presented by Mr. 
>   Henry Ott and hosted by RhienTexas, Inc. For further
> information
>  check out the 
>   web page at www.rheintech.com/seminar.html. Those of you
> that
>  wish to attend 
>   are urged to register by Febrauary 20, 1998. 
>        
>   There is a correction that must be noted about the
> information
>  provided on the 
>   above web page, the price for this two day seminar is
> not $750
>  it is $675 per 
>   participant. 
>        
>   Thank you,
>   Murrell Waldron
>   RhienTexas, Inc. 
>   1701 E Plano Pkwy, Suite 150
>   Plano, TX  75074
>        
>   P: 972-509-2566
>   F: 972-509-0073
>   email: [email protected]
>        
>        
>   
> 

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