James,
Although your response was more in depth, it agreed with what I had
previously indicated, "Bear in mind that they are all differently
qualified, so also their testing capabilities are different."
Also, the purpose of my previous reply was to provide up-to-date NRTL
information and thought I'd go to the source. My experience has not as
yet brought me to Bellcore and/or NEBS requirements and doesn't plan
to in the near future either.
I hope that M. Waldron and others have been sufficiently enlightened.
Regards,
Ron Pickard
[email protected]
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Subject: RE: Re[2]: Bellcore 1089, NRTL List
Author: <[email protected]> at INTERNET
List-Post: [email protected]
Date: 2/27/98 1:07 PM
Ron,
Of those 13 NRTL's you listed, 6 of them claim to perform NEBS testing.
They are CCL, ITS, SWR, UL, MET, and WYLE. Not all of them can do all of
the testing and not all of them are as proficient as others. Be sure to
ask where your evaluation is performed. Some of the NRTL's have
facilities that only do maybe EMI testing and farm out the other testing
to other labs or other divisions they have somewhere else around the
country. This means higher shipping costs and quotes compared to a lab
that does all or most of the testing at one location. We have used 4 of
the NRTL's with varying degrees of success, but generally speaking, we
have had good luck.
Secondly, our experience has been that to sell to the RBOC's or GTE, you
had better be NEBS level 3 plus the other criteria from SR-3580, and
HAVE DOCUMENTATION TO PROVE IT (generally from an NRTL, or Bellcore) or
you are at a strong risk of being rejected.
Hope this helps,
Jim
James Wiese
Regulatory Compliance Engineer
ADTRAN, Inc.
205-963-8431
205-963-8250 FAX
[email protected]
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>From: [email protected][SMTP:[email protected]]
>Sent: Friday, February 27, 1998 9:02 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re[2]: Bellcore 1089, NRTL List
>
>
> Mel et al,
>
> There are, in fact, 13 NRTLs according to OSHA's web site below:
>
> http://www.osha-slc.gov/SLTC/NRTL/index.html
>
> The following is the current list of NRTLs:
>
> American Gas Association (AGA)
> Communication Certification Laboratory (CCL)
> Entela Inc. (ENT)
> Intertek Testing Services NA Inc (ITS), formerly ETL
> Southwest Research Institute (SWRI)
> Underwriters Laboratories (UL)
> United States Testing Company Inc/California Division (UST-CA)
> Candian Standards Association (CSA)
> Electro-Test Inc. (ETI)
> Factory Mutual Research Corp. (FMRC)
> Met Laboratories Inc. (MET)
> TUV Rheinland of North America Inc. (TUV)
> Wyle Laboratories (WL)
>
> Bear in mind that they are all differently qualified, so also their
> testing capabilities are different.
>
> Regards,
> Ron Pickard
> [email protected]
>
>
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>_________________________________
>Subject: RE: Bellcore 1089 ?
>Author: <[email protected]> at INTERNET
>Date: 2/27/98 9:27 AM
>
>
>Hello Mr. Waldron:
>
>The way I understand this issue:
>
>It is not required that Bellcore GR-1089-CORE testing be done at an NRTL. To
>my
>nowledge, Bellcore themselves are not even an NRTL. However, Bellcore
>specifies
>hat equipment on the customer premises must be listed with an NRTL. I
>understan
>also that many RBOC's require that their equipment be listed with an NRTL.
>(Doe
>OSHA require that RBOC's list their equipment with an NRTL?? I don't know.)
>
>If I understand correctly, the aim of the Bellcore standards is not safety,
>but
>liability. They go hand in hand in that a lightning strike, for instance,
>will
>tentially harm the user as well as equipment.
>
>I am searching for a list of NRTL's I saw once in CE magazine...there are 7
>or 9
>f I remember correctly, here are some of them:
>
>UL, CSA, ETL, Factory Mutual, etc...
>
>Hope this helps, and I hope someone from the list will verify this answer,
>and a
>wer the question:
>
>Does OSHA require that RBOC's list their equipment with an NRTL?
>
>All known disclaimers apply.
>
>Mel Pedersen Midcom, Inc.
>Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535
>[email protected] Fax: (605) 886-6752
>
>
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>From: MLWaldron[SMTP:[email protected]]
>Sent: Friday, February 27, 1998 7:07 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Bellcore 1089 ?
>
>Is it required that Bellcore 1089 testing be conducted at an NRTL approved
>lab? (Products would be sold to BROC's) Does this pertain only to specific
>portions of the testing or to the whole program?
>
>Would it be possible to obtain a listing of labs that are capable of
>providing
>this testing? (US based labs only) What are the costs invloved with this
>testing?
>
>Thank you,
>M. Waldron
>
>
>
>
