I've skimmed the thread and will go back and read more thoroughly, but ...
    PalmInternals showed, under hede, ZLauncher, pToolsButtonsOn, and Jot.
    I turned off Jot, deleted pTools, and rebooted. PI speed went to 73.
    Then I turned off ZLauncher (didn't uninstall it - just deselected 
it as the default launcher: Speed went to 6!
    Wowzer!

Bill Gamble wrote:
> There's a giant thread on this here:
> <http://discuss.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=90357>
>
> Lots of posts discussing the effect of Zlauncher's various settings, along
> with various graffiti apps.
> _______
> Bill  
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 1:22 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: [Treo] 680 v 650 speed
>>
>> ---hede---
>> 127 'ZLauncher'
>> 128 'pToolButtons' m68k 7325691E DBCache
>> 129 'Jot' m68k 7311EE90 DBCache ref 73114EA8
>>
>> I guess I need to get into some docs when I get home this evening.
>>
>> Thing is, I could lose ZLauncher and lose some convenience, 
>> and pToolsButtons is allegedly required to operate any of the 
>> tools with pedit, which I'm starting to use a lot, and Jot 
>> (or I may try TealScript) is necessary because I write 
>> on-screen rather than with the keyboard.
>> Still, it might be informative to see by dropping each to see 
>> what improvements are available.
>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> From: "Bill Gamble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> <mailto:wwgamble%40yahoo.com> > 
>>
>>     
>>> OK, now launch PI and tap the "Notif." button. What's 
>>>       
>> listed under HEDE? 
>>     
>>> That's where the slowness is introduced. 
>>>
>>> I've narrowed my HEDE-hooking apps down to my most important 4 
>>> (Butler, KeyCaps600, FieldPlus and Hi-Launcher) and my speed test 
>>> comes in at an acceptable (to me) 13 seconds.
>>>
>>> _______
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>       
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com>  
>>>> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com> ] On 
>>>> Behalf Of J Messeder
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 10:31 AM
>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Treo] 680 v 650 speed
>>>>
>>>> TakePHone
>>>> DateBook
>>>> ZLauncher
>>>> Pedit
>>>> eReader
>>>> Jot
>>>> Secret! 
>>>>
>>>> Time in tics 9511, time in secs 95
>>>>
>>>> A little scary when the first thing it says on first 
>>>>         
>> invocation is 
>>     
>>>> it may cause NVFS machines to crash.
>>>>
>>>> Bill Gamble wrote: 
>>>>         
>>>>> Are those the only 3rd party apps that you're using? 
>>>>>           
>> What result 
>>     
>>>>> do you get when running the Palm Internals speed test (menu ->
>>>>>           
>>>> Speed Test): 
>>>>         
>>>>> _______
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com> 
>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected] 
>>>>>>             
>> <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com>  ] 
>>     
>>>>>> On Behalf Of J Messeder
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 9:16 AM
>>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Treo] 680 v 650 speed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've noticed that some. A couple of times, I've answered
>>>>>>             
>>>> the phone,
>>>>         
>>>>>> and the 680 has paused, then rebooted. 
>>>>>> And I agree with the app-switching, I wonder how much that
>>>>>>             
>>>> would be
>>>>         
>>>>>> noticeable were I using the native apps instead of 
>>>>>>             
>> TakePHone and 
>>     
>>>>>> Dtbk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeffrey Kaplan wrote: 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Hello, Bill Gamble. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:46:21 -0400 you said: 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> While app-switching seems poky on the 680 compared to
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>> the 650 (the
>>>>         
>>>>>>>> price paid for stability), I haven't noticed any slowness
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>> within individual apps. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> FWIW, I do occasionally see the entire system freeze up for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> a couple
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> of seconds while doing something. I see this most often
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> when playing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> one of the solitaire games from Red Mercury. In case it
>>>>>>>               
>>>> matters, I
>>>>         
>>>>>>> have the "sparkle hints" enabled. For a card game, 
>>>>>>>               
>> it's pretty 
>>     
>>>>>>> graphics intensive.
>>>>>>>               
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