By preventing apps (real apps) from getting on the phone without using their 
pipe? Isn't that the definition of control? 

Whether it's sound business logic  or not is a matter of opinion. But some 
people prefer a freer approach to application development and distribution. You 
know, the whole "barriers to entry" thing.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roger Prokic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Treo User Palm Treo User Group" <[email protected]>
Sent: 7/10/08 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Treo] Treo 800w

I don't think Apple is in any way controlling the tools for the iPhone.  They 
are demonstrating business intelligence - the power to capitalize on their 
innovation.  Their iPhone 3G App Store goes online today at 9am PDT.  We will 
all get a chance to see the various offerings from 3rd party developers... 
It'll be the time to see if the iPhone 3G is all hype or whether it stands a 
chance at being a real business tool instead of a toy as the current version is 
IMO.

Roger
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Roger Prokic
Baltimore, Maryland
-=[ Sent via BlackBerry 8820 by AT&T ]=-

-----Original Message-----
From: John Messeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:50:53 
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Treo] Treo 800w


Make that for me a raw, unbiding, philosophical loathing of Microsoft in 
general. An invorrigible techno-toy junkiy, I refrained from the first 
Siemens smartphone because it would have force me to use Outlook, an 
application I had tried and hated. I have used other parts of Microsoft 
Office because I had to get along with clients. I'm currently on Office 
2003; I don't remember the requirement that made me upgrade, but I 
remember being wicked upset when Microsoft decided all my knowledge of  
WordBasic macro writing was done away with.
     I tell that to tell this -- last night, I allowed Microsoft to 
install a Very Important Security Update. When it was over, I had no 
Internet access. There was a warning that I might need to restart 
Windows at the end of the installation process, but not that it was 
about to turn ZoneAlarm into a brick wall between me and the Internet.
    Fortunately, I am on a list that deal with such stuff and remembered 
already downloading an email that refered to a similar occurence with 
other non-MS firewalls.
    It now appears that Apple may be headed in the same direction with 
its iPhone. As cool as the device is, there's just something wrong about 
one company having that much control over my choice of tools.
    I wonder whether there will be an 800P.

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