My "crap" rating of the Pre's hardware (note I didn't say Pre Plus) is based on the high return rates (many times a typical phone, based on 3rd party reports) as well as on personal experience. My Pre, which I babied, developed a crack in the front glass (from corner of USB port), lost its USB port cover, and was all loosey-goosey around the slider. My sister's Pre also developed a crack and the battery wouldn't charge after a week. Her first replacement (new, not a refurb) had the loose battery problem and the keyboard started dropping out letters. Her 2nd replacement again developed a screen crack and had a wobbly screen. And the screens scratched very easily. And Wi-Fi reception wasn't very good (compared to, say, my Logitech Squeezebox controller, which is about the same size but has much better Wi-Fi range). And lest we not forget the inadequate amount of RAM the Pre had (evidenced by how much better an otherwise identical Pre Plus runs).
Sorry...for a company's premier, game-changing phone, the Pre was marred with poor engineering and bad design choices. Had webOS not been as good as it was, Palm would've been bankrupt and left for dead by the end of 2009. And I say that as a longtime Palm fan and Pre user...I still hope they thrive under HP. On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Levi Wallach <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't know, Craig, I think that's harsh. I certainly think that some > phones are much more solid, but piece of crap? I had much worse luck with > previous Treos than I had with my Pre, which I kept completely functional > for over a year, and only got replaced due to a screen defect that was, > while a bit annoying, certainly not something that prevented me from using > the phone. In essence it was also a completely redesigned phone, so I cut > them a bit of slack for having a 1.0 device, the Pre Pluses have been noted > to be much more solid than the original Pre's. My big complaint is that > they didn't simply bring out the Pre Plus on Sprint at the same time (or > even just a month or two after) they brought it out on Verizon, > discontinuing the Pre Minus, and then when/if Pre Minuses broke, to replace > them with a Pre Plus instead. > > Levi Wallach > blog: http://twelveblackcodemonkeys.com > tweet me @dvdmon (http://twitter.com/dvdmon) > > > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Craig Froehle <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > While I truly love webOS, the Pre is a piece of crap (I owned one for > over > > a > > year)...anyone directing the hardware design of that device should be > > without employment. > > > > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 7:26 AM, ldouglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > dropping like flies > > > ----------------------------- > > > > > > > > > Pre designer Peter Skillman latest to leave Palm, entire senior staff > > > now in exodus -- Engadget > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/09/pre-designer-peter-skillman-latest-to-leave-palm-entire-senior/ > > > > > > "TechCrunch reports -- and independent sources confirm with us -- that > > > Peter Skillman, the man with 11 years tenure and the reported designer > > > of the Pre, has left HP / Palm. He joins... sorry, we need to catch > > > our breath here... Michael Abbot, Mike Bell, Lynn Fox, Matias Duarte, > > > Rich Dellinger, and Caitlin Spaan. That's all the Senior VPs (and > > > almost all the VPs) now gone." > > > > > > On 8/9/10, ldouglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > new CEO Rubenstein? I read as much in a couple articles today. > > > > > > > > On 8/9/10, Eugenio Perea <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> The second part of this short article is about Mark Hurd and his > > > >> departure from HP: > http://www.cringely.com/2010/08/stupid-ceo-tricks/ > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
