On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 11:13, Kevin Sonney wrote: > While a lot of people are going to chant "use apt-rpm! use apt-rpm!" > because, well, it's the cool tool of the month,
Cheap shot, Kevin. Apt-rpm is *not* a fad. It works and works well and people have figured that out and started using it. The best Redhat can do now is to just get out of the way. Sure, they've got up2date, but to me, that looks an awful lot like Windows Update, and anyone who read this morning's slashdot can probably see that putting your faith completely in the "benevolence" of big companies isn't really that good of an idea. > I'm going to go the > other way - rhn_register and up2date are your friends. use rhn_register > to register with RHN (it's free!) Free? What about all the valuble marketing data that Redhat collects from the people who register with RHN? You may say that Redhat won't do anything with that data, but anyone who actually believes that is either a) incredibly naive or b) not thinking long term enough. Data collected by a company never dies and what happens if Redhat gets bought by someone (it *could* happen, sometime) and the new company decides to use that data. I'd much rather use something like apt4rpm or even up2date with a Current server and not give redhat my information. > and then "up2date -i" > redhat-config-network - up2date will resolve your dependencies, and > install what's needed to make it run. Plus you can "up2date -u" to get > all the latest errata for 7.3, with their proper depends resolved. apt4rpm will resolve all the dependencies too. And you can even do "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" to get all the latest errata too. You don't have to be locked into what redhat provides. Kevin, I'm not picking on you, so please don't think that, but I have to wonder about why redhat (and mandrake too, for that matter) had to go off and write their own tool to resolve dependencies. Now we have 3 different tools that all do the same thing and people get confused about which one they should use. If everyone had gotten together and worked on the same thing, that tool could have been extrememly kick ass by now. Instead, we've got fragmentation all over the place. Users are not going to stand for this, any more than they stood for Unix fragmentation. Sooner or later, something has to give, and depending on redhat's supposed "dominance" of the market isn't really that good of an idea. Tanner -- Tanner Lovelace | lovelace(at)wayfarer.org | http://wtl.wayfarer.org/ --*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*-- GPG Fingerprint = A66C 8660 924F 5F8C 71DA BDD0 CE09 4F8E DE76 39D4 GPG Key can be found at http://wtl.wayfarer.org/lovelace.gpg.asc --*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*-- Don't move! Or I'll fill ya full of... little yellow bolts of light! Commander John Crichton (Farscape)
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