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On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 02:22 PM, Tanner Lovelace wrote:
Okay, good point. I guess I just get a little bothered by the "not invented here, so it *must* be crap" attitude that I see in certain places (including both redhat and mandrake at times, along with many other places too).
Oh, absolutely.
IMHO the vanity of the distros tends to prevent their stuff from being more widely used.
For example, the very name RPM is an acronym for REDHAT Package Manager. Might it look tacky for another distro to use something that is so prominently Red Hat in nature? Mandrake has had a hard time shaking its reputation for being a modded Red Hat distro and not enough props for its own innovations.
Debian's .deb packages are just as bad. And I expected more from them because they don't have to answer to shareholders.
Hmm... I was not aware of that functionality. Ok, so that's pretty cool. But there's nothing saying that someone can't write a front end to any other package manager to do the same thing... :-)
Welllll... part of the functionality depends on your system configuration being uploaded to a central server, so there is more to it than just building the server end (believe me I've thought of that already)
And yes, it is very cool. I will give kudos to Red Hat for that.
Yep. I've been thinking about what it would take to put together a distribution that's run by a community, similar to Debian, but is based on RPM instead of .debs. Unfortunately, that space is quite crowded with for-profit companies, so I think it would be hard to get off the ground. I think the Mandrake Club, however, comes the closest to what I've envisioned.
I thought it would be neat to just have a platform-agnostic package management system, with channel subscriptions to provide binary packages for specific platforms/architectures. Have platform-moms that are volunteers (in the case of the community distros) or company reps (in the case of corporate distros), third party channels, the ability to have site level proxies, etc. (and the point that would be debated by many of course is how to license it) If this were a Linux-only or Gnu-only tool its usefulness would be severely reduced.
For example, why can't I manage my Red Hat machines from the same interface as my Aurora machines? Red Hat and Aurora are about as close as any two distros can be without actually being the same distro. I understand that Red Hat has business motivations, and my motivations are more along the lines of homogeneous management capabilities.
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