On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 14:14, Chris Hedemark wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Tanner, I agreed with everything you said up to this point: > > On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 01:17 PM, Tanner Lovelace wrote: > > > Kevin, I'm not picking on you, so please don't think that, but I have > > to wonder about why redhat (and mandrake too, for that matter) had > > to go off and write their own tool to resolve dependencies. > > Why do we have KDE and Gnome? Why not just one good desktop? > > Choice is a good thing. Red Hat users have at least two good choices. > apt-rpm is probably better for some environments, up2date/rhn for > others.
Okay, good point. I guess I just get a little bothered by the "not invented here, so it *must* be crap" attitude that I see in certain places (including both redhat and mandrake at times, along with many other places too). > For example, with up2date/rhn I can set up groupings of servers inside > of a web interface, and apply errata or install new packages on entire > groups of servers at once (and even schedule the updates to happen at > night if I want). apt-rpm doesn't provide a good way to do this, and > rhn is actually pretty good at this. Hmm... I was not aware of that functionality. Ok, so that's pretty cool. But there's nothing saying that someone can't write a front end to any other package manager to do the same thing... :-) > But rhn/up2date are redhat specific. I can't manage my Solaris boxen, > Mandrake, OpenBSD, etc. Even though the client might be GPL'ed, the > tool itself is in effect proprietary in that it does me no good > whatsoever on any other flavor of Linux let alone other UNIX OS's. Of > course that would threaten RH's business model so I don't expect that > they will ever fix that (and I don't blame them for doing it that way > to be honest). I think ultimately the community needs to solve this > problem. Yep. I've been thinking about what it would take to put together a distribution that's run by a community, similar to Debian, but is based on RPM instead of .debs. Unfortunately, that space is quite crowded with for-profit companies, so I think it would be hard to get off the ground. I think the Mandrake Club, however, comes the closest to what I've envisioned. Tanner -- Tanner Lovelace | lovelace(at)wayfarer.org | http://wtl.wayfarer.org/ --*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*-- GPG Fingerprint = A66C 8660 924F 5F8C 71DA BDD0 CE09 4F8E DE76 39D4 GPG Key can be found at http://wtl.wayfarer.org/lovelace.gpg.asc --*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*-- 101010 - The Ultimate answer to Life, the Universe and Everything.
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