"Mbasic mode is a mode where no scripts are needed, and it is purely
server-side. There's no proprietary javascript or anything of that nature. If
you think server-side code is a major concern, you should stop using the
internet entirely.
This also goes for just about any website. If it's not my computer that is
being used, then there is no problem. With your logic it would be bad to use
just about any website on the internet."
I believe this logical fallacy is sometimes called reductio ad absurdum. I
insist there is a difference between my posting on the Trisquel forum and
using facebook, a mass surveillance, data mining, profiling system. This is
not black and white.
Also, your argument that "If it is not my computer that is being used, then
there is no problem" is flawed in my opinion. If I give you access to a
remote terminal running Windows, then there's no problem? hmm.
"IRC is a chat that runs on tons of different clients, most of which are
free. Are you going to say that's a bad thing too just because you can't see
what happens on every server?"
No, I am going to say that XMPP is an open standard communications protocol
using an open systems approach. Facebook can call their chat XMPP, but that
doesn't make it so. It is a closed communications protocol that interfaces
with XMPP chat clients through an API. It is not XMPP. Just like their code
is not free software either.
"I don't understand how you can call it "gated" just because you can't use
facebook to send something to someone on a completely different client."
Well, what's not to understand? That's the definition of a gated community.
""Monopolistic" is also a wrong term for this case because there's obviously
hundreds of other different social networks as if enough haven't been
mentioned in this thread already. Nobody is reliant on Facebook."
I'm talking about market dominance, not the ancient Greek definition. You may
want to think about the antitrust lawsuits against Microsoft for an example
of what I mean. Most people are reliant on facebook and thus trapped into it.
In my case, at least 95% of the people I know are on facebook. I choose not
to be a part of the gated community, so I am exiled.
"Obviously you are, because with your logic, nobody would be able to use any
sort of data transfer unless they could see everything that happens
server-side. That is proposterously and practially impossible."
Again, it is not binary. I think this kind of logical fallacy is called a
false dichotomy.
