A new argument has been made, Making the game ISO is dictatorship!:
Submitted by MajorLunaC on Tue, 03/31/2015 - 15:55 Permalink
Ok, so first of all, you're the one submitting the game to gaming sites. This
implies you would like others to play the game and hear about it. You also
mentioned that you want a high download count on SourceForge, I suppose to
gain popularity. As a developer of games, you have to understand that you at
least partially should appease some people for what they want, or in this
case, what they NEED. I never said that I WANTED an alternative system to
download the files, I said that I and others NEEDED other ways to download
the files, because from a completely objective, logical, practical,
programming, and distribution, distributing a completely digital online game
that gets updated frequently SOLELY as an ISO, is simply unheard of,
especially in the gaming world. It's impractical, non-functional, and causes
problems for very many. If you ask any developer if ISOs are the way to
distribute a digital game online, they will say "NO WAY!" Do you and your
group even download the ISOs from the site to see if they download well and
in a reasonable amount of time?
We're not asking you to make our game, or to go out of your way to do
anything special for us. We're saying that we are ALL having problems
downloading your game, it's not working, so please help us get the game in
another way that's easier for everyone, including you and your team, so that
you don't have to keep making ISOs all the time. All I've heard so far is
that you expect us to just listen to you, and anything we say is worthless
and beneath you. There's a word for that, see if you can come up with it
(political/government type).
All I really NEED right now is another repository for the maps, since you
said they're only in the ISO. Although I do see maps.pk3 in many of the
repositories you listed , is that all the maps? Please at least make a
repository for maps. I'm sure I can come up with a script to download
everything needed for the game directly from the repositories. Maybe I'll
even come up with a branch that distributes the game in a reasonable way.
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Response:
> There's a word for that, see if you can come up with it
(political/government type).
Many of the Team support Mr. Vladimir Putin, his ways and means. He is an
inspiration. He revived the Church in Royssia and made the nation and the
people value themselves again.
>repository for maps
The maps rarely change. Use the ISO. We are up against a limit of a DVD. More
maps would be made if not. Thoughts are to make an additional DVD for new
characters and maps.
>repository (for updates)
The git repo xonotic-concrete is what you want.
It's struture is like:
xonotic-concrete/models
xonotic-concrete/textures
xonotic-concrete/sounds
What you do is you get this repo, but rename it xonotic-concrete-data.pk3dir
you move that pk3dir to a data dir of xontic:
XonoticChaos/data/xonotic-concrete-data.pk3dir
So now it is: XonoticChaos/data/xonotic-concrete-data.pk3dir/sounds
XonoticChaos/data/xonotic-concrete-data.pk3dir/sounds/models
XonoticChaos/data/xonotic-concrete-data.pk3dir/sounds/qcsrc
You can also put it in ~/.xonotic/data/
You then get the compiler "gmqcc" (it is on the iso btw, along with the rest
of the source)
you go into XonoticChaos/data/xonotic-concrete-data.pk3dir/sounds/qcsrc
and make.
Whenever you want to update code you git pull in xonotic-concrete-data.pk3dir
Eventually, some months later, get an iso again if you suspect some maps have
changed (usually small settings).
>Download difficulty
This may be due to the host, some people it works, others it doesn't.
Sometimes they take awhile to update the mirrors. They don't charge so we use
them. They are good.
>ISO is hard
It is nothing for us to make an ISO, We do this multiple times per day
sometimes as we back up whatever progress we make in each coding session.
ISOs are a matter of course, making the release ISO is just "make iso but do
not burn it to disc" option.
>You have responsibility
No, we benefit you as an ancillary happenstance.
If you would like we could stop publishing updates.
Would you like?
>Download count
This is desired only to rub it in some persons' faces, at a later date. To
spit on them as they have spit on us.
