> Asking why hurting others is bad, is something children have to learn the answer to as well.

It was never explained to me. I figured that out on my own. Probably around the same time I developed empathy.

> Because pain is a tangible real feeling. Its not a philosophy, its physical, its biological.

Ahem...

Pain is a signal your brain uses to convince you to defend yourself. It's not "tangible". It's facilitated by your nervous system and communicated by electrical signals.

There are people who have disorders that prevent them from feeling pain. Such people have a much lower life expectancy than most, because they're completely oblivious to even the most severe of injuries.

The only thing that's "tangible" is damage to a person. Well, some damage is permanent, some will heal. There's a whole lot of people who like to either inflict or have inflicted to them damage of the latter type. But then, there are people who like to do the former type of damage to themselves! You know, when people do things to reshape parts of their bodies (e.g. noses, breasts).

So, your reasoning is nonsense to begin with, because it suggests that hacking the limbs off of certain people is fine because they can't feel it is acceptable. Or that stabbing people is acceptable if you give them an anesthetic first. But even if we try to look at it from a more reasonable angle, damage, it's still a preposterous measurement. Are you suggesting that practitioners of BDSM and surgeons performing wanted nose jobs are unethical? What a silly standard to go by.

And even ignoring all of that, there is no objective reason why hurting people or causing damage to them is bad! It's, again, all down to empathy, morals, ethics, and principles.

> Noone likes it [pain]

LOL

> And So we don't drift too far off topic

HA!

> If you are still trying to debate me on why "ethics", regarding prop software, is not related to or more important than privacy and security. Its time to give it up. Because Even the fsf would disagree with you. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/proprietary.html

And here you are, still misrepresenting what the FSF says. Well done!

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