->The free software movement fails when users embrace proprietary whenever it brings a little practical convenience Little practice convenience? My new laptop is smaller, lighter, more fast, with more battery life, etc, etc. And I need to work/study now not tomorrow. Which can be of more practical convenience? we all know that in almost new laptops Trisquel fails to work one way or another. In this one lenovo x220 laptop it was (at first) the wireless thing, but then was also the bluetooth not working and (forgot to mention also) the mouse pointer was very unstable, always shaking,etc. I had wait very time for the two wireless adapters that at last doesn't work; wasting more time waiting for another (with the risk of failling to) and resolving the new problems? I don't think so... There are things with more priority than using free software in my life.

->why would manufacturer ship free firmware if almost all users accept proprietary firmware (and the malware it probably includes)? I thing that is a lost battle! Even if there are some purists here in the forum, I ask how many of us don't use smartphone, or have a google account, see youtube,etc, etc. In general with the risk of using proprietary firmware some way or another? Yesterday with is threat in the forum:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/do-youtube-dlhtml5-video-everywhere-run-nonfree-js
we all came to know that even a free project like youtube-dl (that is part of the Trisquel repos) possible uses non-free js! Have we so sure that other projects in the free software repos don't use proprietary software? who is checking if there are no time for it? At the end is just conceptual, if somebody tell me 'hey use this, is free software', I just accept, in principle! I can't do much: or I'll trust or not trust. But I will never have time to confirm if it is or not, because we all have limited time, limited personnel,limited resources, and limited knowledge. But this works for big company’s that use non free software too, even if they have more personnel, more knowledge and more time; at the end they too have a limit, and have to make choices. They can't spy us all, because if they do it they would risk the bankruptcy or have to change their trade to maybe espionage, or something; which maybe it is not more profitable than what they do.
->two companies sell freedom-respecting devices and ship worldwide.
with not very ethical prices! A better solution was someone with knowledge, concentrate the information on how to make a laptop, or a desktop, which are the parts, that work entirely well with free-software; which are the laptops that works with free-software; and let us assembly the machines. We have limited money, and have priorities on to use that money. I understand that that was not too good for those company's, but or we drop the company's in favour of free software, free information, and a free OS or we benefit those company's and lose people. Which is more important!

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