> but I also guess you do have thousands of users who pay enough attention
and care enough as to use the tools ('member when we used tcpdump for
firecox?)
I don't know what this guess is based on. The fact is: only one user checked
it and he is not an expert whatsoever. This proves that the experts from the
so called community simply can't be trusted as they don't have the listed
qualities. That's what makes the so called 'community control' and 'trust in
community' pretty much a wishful thinking. Then again, in order to ensure the
qualities are there, a central figure must exist to evaluate the people and
again - this creates the need for a controller, a central unit. Do you see
the contradictory nature of all this?
> With proprietary sosware you can not, you can only suck it up.
From the perspective of possibility - yes. But you can still test a
proprietary browser with tcpdump in the exact same way. And it may be
surprised (which is unlikely but still possible). Please - I am not defending
closed programs, they are a black box. I am just saying that possibility
seems to be generally considered as "then someone has done it" which creates
an overall irresponsibility.
