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Wow!  It is good to have some  data  illuminated  on the subject  of 
ethics and morals from some place higher on the scale of intelligence 
and the ability to correctly reason and evaluate.

I am now reading Excalibur Revisited  and Geoffrey Filbert says that 
less than 1%  of what is written and said in scientology  is correct.

When comparing the conventional scio data and Filbert's viewpoint / 
evaluation  the difference becomes clear.

It is so true that one datum cannot be evaluated,  in order to evaluate 
something you need at least two datums  and the more datums the better.

You cannot evaluate scientology  from within itself. You cannot  KNOW 
and UNDERSTAND   scientology from within itself.

Excalibur Revisited is a refreshing, mind blowing read.  Highly 
recommended.

In reading Excalibur you will find lots of data of comparable magnitude.

http://excaliburrevisited.eu.tt/

Thanks Leo.

David


On 2-Jan-10, at 9:47 PM, Leo Swart wrote:

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> The subjects of Ethics and Morals were greatly confused in Scientology
> because after making a clear distinction between the two in is early
> writings on them, LRH then proceeded to use the word "ethics" all over 
> the
> place when, by his own earlier definitions, he meant morals.  The 
> subject
> remained confusing and a quagmire for all until Mary Freeman sorted it 
> out
> and developed her First Dynamic Ethics program.
>
>
> ETHICS:  1. Ethics is the application of reason in the attainment of 
> optimum
> survival. At its most basic it means to bring into alignment a person's
> Beingness, Doingness and Havingness.
> 2.  Ethics actually consists, as we define it now in Scientology, of
> rationality toward the highest level of survival for the individual, 
> the
> future race, the group, and mankind, and the other dynamics of life 
> taken
> collectively. Ethics are reason. The highest ethic level would be 
> long-term
> survival concepts with minimal destruction, along any of the dynamics 
> of
> life.
> 3.  Ethics is a personal thing.  When one is ethical or "has his 
> ethics in"
> it is by his own determination and is done entirely by himself out of 
> his
> belief in his own honour, and good reason, as optimum solution across 
> his
> eight dynamics.
>
> MORALS:  A code of conduct which serves as a standard of acceptable
> behaviour for the members of a group. It is usually derived from the 
> past
> experience of that group or from revelations and commandments from the
> deity.  They are the agreed upon codes of conduct of a society which 
> are
> sometimes given the force of law.
>
> What is moral in one group could be considered to be totally immoral by
> another. Rules which were once pro-survival could become 
> contra-survival as
> time and circumstances change.  A hundred years ago it was considered
> immoral to divorce; today it is considered immoral to continue in an 
> unhappy
> marriage.
>
> Morals are an entirely arbitrary code of conduct and are not 
> necessarily
> related to reason or good sense, but they are important in that they 
> make a
> stable society possible. Morals relate to survival only insofar as 
> continued
> membership of that group relates to survival.
>
>
> As a rule of thumb one can safely say that if it can be written up as 
> a rule
> to be followed (by self or others) then it is the field of Morals and 
> not
> Ethics.  In the CofS they ardently applied "ethics" to a person's third
> dynamic position in the Org while allowing his first dynamic condition 
> to
> remain in Treason or below. In fact it was often demanded that the 
> first
> dynamic should be in a very low condition in order for him to be 
> acceptable
> to the Org on the third. The insanity of this should be obvious to all.
>
> One lives life on all dynamics simultaneously. To think one can 
> sacrifice
> one dynamic so as to benefit another is as nutty as chopping one's 
> right leg
> off so as to walk better on the left. All eight dynamics must be 
> brought up
> into high conditions in order to travel the road to OT.
>
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Best regards,

David

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