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That sticking to authorities is something i got rid of some years ago, whereas not with the scientology tool. How could you spot and process that ? Getting rid of that is the key for an own life and real choice. With this sickness alive people will never listen to anything their chosen authority has not approved. cheers xriz Am 26.11.2010, 15:19 Uhr, schrieb Flemming Funch <[email protected]>: > Hi Guys, > > I don't think I've said anything on this list for years. In part because > I paid little attention to TROM. But I still listened with half an ear. > > Recently I decided to give TROM another try myself. In part because > people frequently send me questions that I don't have good answers to. > In part because several of my session clients do TROM in their own time. > But of course also because it is a good thing. I'm currently doing level > 4. > > Some of you guys have clearly spent more time than I have in studying > all TROM materials in great detail, and will probably be much better > than I at explaining what exactly Dennis said. > > However, I right away run into issues with what Dennis said, and what > some people are doing, versus what I think is the right thing to do. > > For example, I realized, somewhat to my horror, that some people will > spend hours and hours every day doing RI. And what they actually do and > call "RI" is something I consider a very bad idea. However, the problem > is that they do it with exactly the commands Dennis gave, and Dennis > said very emphatically that one can do any amount of it, and it is the > solution to just about anything one runs into on TROM. Which I think is > grossly misleading. And based on his instructions, people might do all > sorts of different things and call it RI, and think they're doing a good > thing. > > I should warn you first that I have little inclination to blindly follow > the literal advice of some Authority who's supposed to be smarter than > me. I ran that out many years ago. So, just word clearing what exactly > Dennis said doesn't quite do it for me. Sure, it is very good to > understand, and he has some brilliant insights that should be thoroughly > understood. And maybe some blind spots that also should be understood. > > So, if your goal is to do TROM exactly and correctly as written in the > materials, you should maybe not listen to me. > > Hubbard found, quite correctly, that creative processes are limited > processes. If you keep just creating pictures of stuff, sooner or later > you'll start making some stuff more solid, namely the reasons "why not", > the case on the subject. Or, if we look at it a TROM way, if you keep > mindlessly creating pictures, you're likely to start creating the > opposites, and you'll start dramatizing the overwhelms and the goals and > games that would be dealt with on Level 4 and 5. > > Yes, creating is ultimately what life is about, and there's no limit to > that. But that's the overall target. If what you're creating is > pictures, most of which are supplied by some kind of file clerk > mechanism, there are plenty of limits to that. > > What is not limited is your actual life in present time. That's what you > need to get back to, and that, I claim, is the point of RI. Being back > in present time, doing and thinking and feeling what you want to, what > is important to you. So, after having been thrown off track by strange > feelings and pictures from the past, and having resolved them, one fills > the empty space with what one wants one's life to be. One remembers, or > enhances, what one is doing. You don't do that by making random pictures > for 3 hours. On the contrary. You more likely do it by getting in touch > with your present environment, imagining some nice energy around you, > and getting back to an exciting project one is working on. Back out of > the mind, back into one's life. That shouldn't take more than a few > minutes. > > A repetitive rote command is an awkward thing to use there. "Commands" > are imports from Scientology, and aren't very suited to running solo. > What you do solo is cycles of action. What's important is the cycle > you're carrying out, not how it is worded. Giving oneself commands opens > up all sorts of stuff that isn't all good. > > I do have things to say about time-breaking too, but I think I've thrown > enough wrenches into the machinery for one day. > > - Flemming -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ _______________________________________________ Trom mailing list [email protected] http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
