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Hi Fleming Welcome back to TROM.
You make some excellent points. In my own studies of TROM and other solo therapies I have found that the scale I am trying to achieve is: Be Do Have Where Repair of Importance is at the creation of things to have level. I agree with you that its purpose is to get into present time but is not the ultimate end of TROM, which is Nirvana. Do is games conditions where I feel I am curious about, desire, enforced to play or inhibited from playing certain games. Dennis lists the junior universes of games sufficient to resolve the mind as: Know Create Love Admire Enhanced Help Feel Control Own Have Eat Sex Reason See Hear Touch Smell Taste Dennis is saying that if we look for the games where we have interest (are curious about, desire, enforced to play or inhibited from playing) on these subjects until we have no interest in or place no importance on them we will reach a state were we realize the remaining content of the mind is of no importance and be left at Nirvana. Being is Nirvana. Lester Levenson in "Keys to Ultimate Freedom" advises to meditate with a purpose of holding the state of being joy filled and harmless to everyone. I see TROM then as RI to get into present time. Finding the emotionally charged games I am playing and timebreaking them till they reduce to zero importance and meditating on being joy filled and harmless to all until I can hold that state of beingness continuously. Along the way this universe is designed to provide me a testing ground with direct feed back to see how to deal with others in ways that create harmony and reduce conflict. In doing this I find where I have emotionally charged mind content and timebreak it. So my approach to TROM is in agreement with you. RI is not the way to achieve Dennis's goal of Nirvana. Also, I am not doing PURE TROM. I have adapted it to a better therapy for me. Since in a solo therapy each person is his own pc, auditor and case supervisor it is good to have a lot of discussion of the basics and fine points of the processes and their application. Do bring up your questions about timebreaking. Keep on TROMing Pete List moderator -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of Flemming Funch Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 6:19 AM To: The Resolution of Mind list Subject: [TROM1] RI Hi Guys, I don't think I've said anything on this list for years. In part because I paid little attention to TROM. But I still listened with half an ear. Recently I decided to give TROM another try myself. In part because people frequently send me questions that I don't have good answers to. In part because several of my session clients do TROM in their own time. But of course also because it is a good thing. I'm currently doing level 4. Some of you guys have clearly spent more time than I have in studying all TROM materials in great detail, and will probably be much better than I at explaining what exactly Dennis said. However, I right away run into issues with what Dennis said, and what some people are doing, versus what I think is the right thing to do. For example, I realized, somewhat to my horror, that some people will spend hours and hours every day doing RI. And what they actually do and call "RI" is something I consider a very bad idea. However, the problem is that they do it with exactly the commands Dennis gave, and Dennis said very emphatically that one can do any amount of it, and it is the solution to just about anything one runs into on TROM. Which I think is grossly misleading. And based on his instructions, people might do all sorts of different things and call it RI, and think they're doing a good thing. I should warn you first that I have little inclination to blindly follow the literal advice of some Authority who's supposed to be smarter than me. I ran that out many years ago. So, just word clearing what exactly Dennis said doesn't quite do it for me. Sure, it is very good to understand, and he has some brilliant insights that should be thoroughly understood. And maybe some blind spots that also should be understood. So, if your goal is to do TROM exactly and correctly as written in the materials, you should maybe not listen to me. Hubbard found, quite correctly, that creative processes are limited processes. If you keep just creating pictures of stuff, sooner or later you'll start making some stuff more solid, namely the reasons "why not", the case on the subject. Or, if we look at it a TROM way, if you keep mindlessly creating pictures, you're likely to start creating the opposites, and you'll start dramatizing the overwhelms and the goals and games that would be dealt with on Level 4 and 5. Yes, creating is ultimately what life is about, and there's no limit to that. But that's the overall target. If what you're creating is pictures, most of which are supplied by some kind of file clerk mechanism, there are plenty of limits to that. What is not limited is your actual life in present time. That's what you need to get back to, and that, I claim, is the point of RI. Being back in present time, doing and thinking and feeling what you want to, what is important to you. So, after having been thrown off track by strange feelings and pictures from the past, and having resolved them, one fills the empty space with what one wants one's life to be. One remembers, or enhances, what one is doing. You don't do that by making random pictures for 3 hours. On the contrary. You more likely do it by getting in touch with your present environment, imagining some nice energy around you, and getting back to an exciting project one is working on. Back out of the mind, back into one's life. That shouldn't take more than a few minutes. A repetitive rote command is an awkward thing to use there. "Commands" are imports from Scientology, and aren't very suited to running solo. What you do solo is cycles of action. What's important is the cycle you're carrying out, not how it is worded. Giving oneself commands opens up all sorts of stuff that isn't all good. I do have things to say about time-breaking too, but I think I've thrown enough wrenches into the machinery for one day. - Flemming
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