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David Very well stated. I am happy to hear that you have found several ways to put your bank at effect.
keep up the good work Pete -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of David M. Pelly Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 12:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TROM1] Greetings ( I am back) This is a test email to see if my connection to the list is working. I changed email addresses on the list form back in November and I did not receive any list mail, I thought for awhile that the list was just quite, but I wasn't sure so I applied again a while back and again nothing happened, and I now learned that it did not go through each time. I reapplied again a few days ago and again nothing happened. So I wrote Pete and he apparently did something and told me it is now working. So while I am here I will write more.... I checked the archives and I see that there has been a lot of activity that I missed. But nevertheless all the time I have been working as much TROM as my mind can handle and the going has been tough, actually worse than tough, it has been brutal. There were times that I thought I was going to die and life was too miserable to carry on with. If you have listened to Judith's tape to Dennis she mentions that she was doing level 4 and experiencing body sensations, etc and did not know what to do with them and sounded very frustrated. Well, I was encountering the same thing. And lots of it. These sensations were bothering me since childhood and with a lot of will power I learned to suppress them and form a valence to live on top of it. But I eventually learned that operating from a valence with all the crap buried, is a very weak and problematic way to live. It surfaces when the going of life gets tough and then I crashed many times over the years. Now in L4 I hit the same stuff as Judith did. Dennis says to just time break it. Well that is easier said than done. But it can be done and has to be done. My body sensations, head sensations, mind sensations lasted for weeks at a time. I TB ed all the way as much as I could do. But they seem to be mostly gone now. There is bit left and they only get restimulated when I am out and about in the rough and tumble of daily life. I keep vigilant and conscious of what is going on and time break on the go as much as possible. I find it easy to TB while walking. These issues now seem to come up for me, quite easily. Now, I read all the postings in the archives of November and December and I really enjoyed reading them. There have been some really intelligent postings. Especially by Flemming and Pete and Alex and maybe one or two others, I don't recall the names of all. There was a lot of reading. It took me a couple of days of full time reading to get through it all. A couple of points that stood out for me is what Flemming wrote: That he got done with listening or obeying or following some guru a long time ago. He said it so eloquently. That has been my operating data even before I got into scn back in 97. I am a poor follower and don't make a good sheople. I have my own brain and my own intelligence and can think for myself like any other supposed guru. I can be a guru too and be my own guru. Like has been said if you meet the Budda on the road kill him. Same goes for all gurus. I follow or listen or obey rules to follow only when I evaluate that it is a good idea for me to follow. I am on my own self determination. I am the boss of me. And I think it was Pete and maybe someone else who said, maybe it was Slim who said. do what ever it takes to get the job done, fake it, bullshit your way through it, and I say; use other processes , or make up your own processes if you can or get any ideas to get through the shit. I am saying this to give some reality and some reference point to those newcommers. I started this TROM stuff three years ago. I tried like hell to do what Dennis said and I had very limited success. I got fed up with TROM after all but killing myself after applying it daily for months at a time. I was not getting anywhere other than deeper and deeper into shit and sicker. I would quit for a few months and try other things , other solo processes, like aspectika , mostly. I think there were some other processes, but I forget what they were. Yes, I cleared a fair bit of charge. But similar to TROM I would get into so much heavy charge, my head was hurting with severe aches. I wrote what's his name who developed aspectika and his girl said to quit and get pro help. well, I am so deep in shit so that I can't even work, so can't pay for help, so I have to figure out a way to do it myself. Pete suggested Sedona. I did and found it very helpful. Actually sedona gave me the ability to connect with traumatic incidents of this life , that I had about 300 hrs of processing on over the last 14 yrs and which I thought were cleared, but evidently were not. With sedona and TBing , I blew so much charge on those same incidents, that I can't describe it in words. Learning sedona was easy and I just added TBing to it. I ran the track and the incidents like a tape player and did it fwd and reverse a few times and charge blew like explosives, like land mines. What a relief. That was the first year. But I then ran into periods and stuff that would bog me down for months and I would get frustrated and quit. I would go for a few months hobbling along, almost crying in pain and not knowing what to do. Then get back into TROM again and the same shit would happen. Then a few people had been telling me about the Power of Now, for some time. Actually the first person told me many times over the last 12 yrs that I should read it. I didn't. For one thing I did not want to pay $40 for the book. I am not only cheap, I am damn near broke. This summer I found it in a used book store for $8 and I bought it. I bought his two other later books also. I soon realized that it was pretty well the same thing as TROM L 2 and L3 but written in lay person's language. (Someone said that he was into scn before he wrote the book. The similarity is too much for me as one being familiar with scn enough to think that it is just a coincidince. But anything is possible. ) PON gave me another way to look at issues. A very easy way. Just step back and realize the crap is not you and be in the present time (now) and look at the shit untill it is gone. I think that is called : as - ising, not. (I am not that deep into scn. I was only in the cos for a few days in 97 and got declared for disagreeing with what I saw and realizing the Ron said in Dianetics that the PC should always be aware of who should be on the couch. I saw it was them and not me and I made that known and was soon declared. It wasn't funny then, but it is funny now. ) There is more than one way to skin a cat. Like someone quoted The Prophet. Instead of saying I found "THE TRUTH, say I found a TRUTH. Beware of the one who has only read one book. He can range anywhere from a fanatic, to a zealot to unbalanced to dangerous. Like fundamentalist muslims, christians and scientologists. So with the PON I got going again. It has not been easy, but I got through L2 and L3 and into L4. That is where I bogged down again and got very frustated again over a month ago or so. John Boice sent me a link to the tape from Judith and that got me going again and I got through all that heavy body sensation. ( for some reason I can't seem to get the tapes or MP3s to play on my computer ( my old mac died and I am using a friends lap top with windows XP pro ) ( just does not seem to do as well as a mac, probably because I don't know how to work it ) directly from the TROM help website. But I was able to play John's link. ) Now I must go back. I forgot to say when I was going through L2 and L3 more than a year ago , I hit so much body charge, I was almost paralyzed. I tried using EFT. It kind of helped a bit, but it was a pain in the ass, trying to follow the routine which I think , now in hind sight, that the routine is stupid. It makes me mad to think of it. In frustration, I decided to tap on the charged points and areas with my fingers of both hands and as much as I figured was good and as hard as I could and till the charge cleared or until I was exhausted. Usually until I was exhausted. I did this for many days and weeks and months till it cleared. But there was still a solid lump of pain in my solar plexus that would not move. I was in a painful mad and desperate state. That was last winter. I began to watch religious church services on TV on the religious channel. One time a preacher gave a healing prayer on the air and said; repeat after me. I forget the prayer words, but the prayer was asking Jesus to heal what ever was ailing. I followed the prayer and the solid mass of pain disappeared instantly and has not come back. So my way of doing things is like was said before; do what ever it takes. Rules are guidelines only. Any way that works, anyway that improves case, anyway that clears charge is a good process. Anyone who says , "this" is the way as I I say; is the only way, is full of shit and a small and weak and limited mind and an entrapper. I am now going into L5 and so far it looks like it is coming along. B ut I just did the first four set a few times so far. I still get L2, L3 and some L4 stuff come up from time to time and I just Tb it and it usually does not last long. The big thing is that it is good to learn and know how to be in control of your own mind ( bank ). ( Some times you need a tow truck to get your car out of the swamp. It is sure a lot easiet than trying to levitate your car out of the swamp. ) I am feeling a lot lighter and cleare and more stable. To Jon Murray; I know all too well, what you mean by being exhausted from work. I did it until I collapsed. I hope this helps you new commers. I hope we have blazed and cleared a better trail for you through the tangled web of lies, bull shit, and false data and implants we acquired wittingly or unwittingly and the mind games we played and woven into one hell of a mess of mental mass. David.
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