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Paul, it sounds like you can proceed, if you desire.

Colleen,

Yes, I believe I have but I have found that by now going over the Level 4, Overwhelms I am now getting cognitions with no past incidents coming up. This is really fun and enlightening. I am getting an understanding of what overwhelms are and what they are not. This is both relative importance and relative significance.

I just have to say at this point that Dennis really unwound the whole ball of wax with his relative importances and with that I am forming relative significances which are truth.

>From your perspective, would Level 4 equate to any Scientological process
being run on one?

From my viewpoint, yes there is.  I would call it Clear Theta Clear.

Ron put up this definition as he was studying and researching in the 1950's and then never returned to it again. (If any one needs a definition, let me know.) My thinking is that Ron interiorized and went on to do the OT Levels of Scn and got bogged down with that. My belief is that Ron pursued his own case and that commonality with his case that he also saw in others. By doing so he then went off the rails. (I can go into this in detail later. Now, I want to answer your email)

I'm doing Level 3 work, but do find that I am more and more differentiated. This is good. The more differentiation, the better. For example, during some Ri and meditation, I lost focus and sort of blanked out and my mind was there, but after a few minutes I snapped out of it and
took a good look at what I had been looking at, with great interest, no
negative emotions, almost admiration. So, all is not peaceful and quiet "in there", but you can see that I am assuming a more exterior viewpoint of it,
and even able to see some components of it,

Don't give the 'in there' special significance. just do the TimeBreaking. You want to get to the EP of Level 3 as Dennis states it.

First of all be sure that you have "... cooled this compulsive games condition you are in with your past at Level 2 ..." "... while you are still playing this game you cannot effectively TimeBreak ..." What I see as the EP for Level 2 as Dennis states it is, "... the being is able to comfortably place 'then' and 'now' objects side by side for comparison purposes." Nothing else, nothing more.

Dennis goes on to say, "While the being continues to try and compare the 'then' and 'now' objects while still considering them in different moments in time he never achieves a full comparison; thus, he never achieves a true evaluation of their relative importance and the 'then' object still retains a residual command power over him". (Emphasis is mine.) This is all from the first two paragraphs of Level 3. In other words from Level 4, "The completion of Level 3 signifies the end of your mind impinging upon you in session involuntarily".

Continue TimeBreaking any and everything that has influence on one. The only significance you want to assign is relative importance. That's why when one has finished the TROM exercise one is on, one must then put up new relative importances because one has plowed asunder their old ones into oblivion. All of the TROM exercises essentially obliterate the old RI that one has been carrying around.

What I also see as a major development for Level 3 is to have a greater and greater "viewpoint exterior to your body in present time ..." What I see is that one is developing one's separation of Thetan, body, mind. This has a lot to do with one's relative importances and the ability to distinguish all three from each other and have new viewpoints of how they relate to each other. There is a hierarchy here, an important one which I see as a must in doing and completing Level 4 exercises.

If any one needs help at sorting out exterior/not exterior, let me know. There are significant differences between exterior/not exterior that I can walk you thru.

Another example, last night's meditation (I never was able to meditate
before TROM That's great! A new ability gained or rehabilitated.) saw me dropping limiting postulates re being somewhere and communicating or just observing. I had plenty of choices of where I wanted to be and in what state of form or formlessness, and who I could communicate with. This is very good too. At first this was very interesting and I wanted to focus more on
this, but for some reason I lost focus (not enough RI?) and went off to
sleep instead, That's fine, just keep your goal of TROMming out old RI, TimeBreaking and putting in present and future RI with RI running. As you improve your present and future RI by running the TROM exercises and then installing new RI, a lot of things will fade into 'no interest any longer', obscurity, no more involuntary significance or reactions.

My dreams are still about old games, but something is different, besides the fact that they are material for timebreaking. Only TimeBreak them if there is a need to eliminate involuntary reactions or significances. If they don't qualify for that, just continue 'til there is nothing that any longer qualifies.

I have yet to aggressively go after incidents to timebreak as Paul T.
bravely does.  The best I do right now is daily rudiments timebreaking.
However, my memory is improved and I can and do timebreak people and related
events as they come to fore.

I highly advise going after any and everything that one has some kind of reluctance for you to do or to avoid. Obviously there are involuntary influences going on there. One wants to get to a point where they can look at any and everything, past, present and future and have no involuntary reaction to it, in life and in session with TROM.

With Scientology I did not quite see the light at the end of the tunnel, but
with TROM I do, and it comes quite efficiently with an increasing
realization that I am the cause of my own effect.

My personality is starting to seriously unravel, and I see that as progress, and also a bit disorienting (more RI? Yes, as stated above) at times. It is not really necessary to create another personality/identity but I see that I nearly could if I wanted to, if it suited my purposes. Actors do it freely. My think is that you want to be fluent at creating any and all personalities/ identities that you care to or can imagine. Do not put a limit on that ability.

I see my case state a bit more clearly, and am more willing to know what is my true spiritual condition. I sense I still have a lot of work to do, and
am quite happy with the gains I have made while on Level 3 processes.

colleen
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