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Hi Martin,
I found several of your statements interesting. I am in the process
of doing Level 5, Meditating and reading Tom Campbell's Big Toe.
Those statements you made, rang familiar with me from all of my
studies across several disciplines, not only Scn and TROM.
On Apr 23, 2012, at 5:00 AM, [email protected] wrote:
1. Re: Undermining the West Through Psychology (Martin Foster)
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Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:07:39 +0200
From: Martin Foster <[email protected]>
To: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [TROM1] Undermining the West Through Psychology
On 20/04/2012 17:35, Pete McLaughlin wrote:
Nirvana's nice but what could you do if you chose to play a really
big game?
Pete - Thanks for the interesting article and an especial thanks
for expanding the TROM library.
My thoughts on Nirvana:
I think Nirvana and any and all states of being are relative to
other states.
Certainly this is true. There are a class of states and within that
class there are similarities and differences. I will continue below
Some believe that wealth is Nirvana. Others an endless holiday.
Still others a challenge or adventure. Some want absolute peace.
Others want adventure and excitement.
Most want to change their current status and condition and strive
to do so.
To me Nirvana is to achieve the goal peace and serenity. Like opting
out of the MEST Universe game and going to cloud 9. It certainly
would be a nice place to stop, take a breather and just relax.
One thing that I have found for my self is that one can improve
themselves, become a better individual. Then too one can become a
better Thetan/spirit too. I fully agree with your view that we all
both occupy the Theta/spiritual as well as the physical universe. It
is just that some are so wrapped up in the physical and then
knowledge/belief/understanding of small subsets there that many have
no concept of what is really going on. More simply, how many can
truly embrace the viewpoint of Thetan/spirit-Mind-Body and what that
really entails.
This physical universe is a subset of a superset non-physical
universe and the beings who occupy the physical also partially
occupy the non physical and vice versa. Every now and again we have
a taste of something different and then want more of that state.
Now this really sounds like Campbell's Big Toe. I define it not as a
state but as an employment of one's inherent abilities which are not
fully being utilized or recognized. From an external viewpoint
towards another I can see this condition of a Thetan/spirit being
called a 'state'. All of the spiritual improvement disciplines
basically embrace this concept and that one can improve their
abilities or for me actually more causatively employ their inherent
intrinsic abilities, employ themselves to the fullest as to what they
truly are.
The sky is not the limit, it goes well beyond that. In fact if truth
be known, we are capable of creating skies and creating beyond any
possible limitation, beyond what anyone could even imagine.
As long as we're here in the physical - I think we should enjoy
what we have. Otherwise why are we here?
To learn, to understand, to improve, to reach higher states of
consciousness .... That's my belief. There is a lot here in the
physical that is just plain not understood and not only that but a
lot here that we may not even be seeing.
If one accepts that both the physical and the non physical
universe's integrity is protected by all of us, then to continue
attempting some Nirvana is in fact violating our own agreement.
True and I agree with you but if one is efforting to get there, let's
have him get there and see if that's where he really wants to be for
eternity. Might as well be a rock for eternity. That would
accomplish the same thing.
Our intentions sometimes have unintended consequences but
fortunately the protective mechanisms emplaced prevent us from
interfering too greatly in each others self determinism.
Yes, fears, egos and misplaced goals and purposes lead to minor,
entrapping, enprisoning games that limit and deny one the ultimate
game ... knowingness. I see that Dennis with his TROM is a means to
achieve the ultimate knowingness as well as meditation for that last
step to working in and discovering all there is to the non-physical
universe.
I have been running the items Be Do Have as junior games and can see
that Be is parallel to Know as well as do is to create and of course
Dennis has Have as one of his junior games.
I have found your post interesting and challenging. Please post more
for discussion.
Martin
Paul/Level 5 in progress
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