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It occurred to me that you would check me on the word "mind".

Then I thought to let it go.            (at the least it would stir up some 
agitation and we don't learn much without agitation) 





Because I was not using the word in the sense we use it or define it.

(In this area, we have created or defined mind according to our own viewpoint, 
or articulated a hypothesis, which may not be fact either.  )

I was using it the way the people in those groups might mean it. Because it is 
their word. (The Hindi, Sihks, Buddists) 

Based on my experience, I think they ( at least some)  would see or mean  mind, 
consciousness,  or existence to   roughly mean  or be synonymous.

Although technically speaking they would be wrong,  or others  more advanced 
would consider them wrong. 


This an on going debate amongst many.

And we are all talking through our hats, because we are all still effect of 
what ever the cause is.

If we knew the truth,  the truth would set us free, from being effect. And we 
would not be having this discussion. 

Not?


:)

David 



> From: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 07:36:07 -0700
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [TROM1] a thought about Nirvana
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> On Jul 3, 2012, at 3:02 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> > You mean?:
> >
> > In other words, or more precise words:
> >
> > Nirvana  is a state of mind or a state of consciousness or a state  
> > of existence.
> >
> Let me suggest that you leave out "state of mind".  I would then  
> communicate it as a state of consciousness or a state of existence [a  
> spiritual state not a physical body state].  It is one simultaneously  
> aware of their being aware as a consciousness and also being aware of  
> their 'state' or 'level' at that same moment.  Realize that you kind  
> of have to look back in a moment of time at that moment.  By pausing  
> in a moment of reflection and doing this, you can also see that the  
> moment, the state/level has continued into the present moment.
> 
> > You could also use the word "level" instead of "state".
> >
> Yes, that interchange of words is fine.  You can see that I have  
> already incorporated it above.
> 
> > Right?
> >
> > David
> 
> Paul/Level 5 in progress
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