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If you took an honest look at what is going on in the world, ( an impartial 
view from the space station and in a state where you can see and hear and 
understand everything that is going on on earth)  you would see that for every 
argument and battle won, many more pop up.

If you would do your spiritual studies properly and thoroughly,  you would know 
why.

That data is scattered and well hidden in amongst the various spiritual works 
of the world. 

The way man thinks is the the way the laws of the universe work.

Everything we need to know on earth to solve every problem is already on earth.

Only those with desire to know, the will to do the research,  the eyes to see, 
ears to hear and the mind to understand will be able to do so.

The real truths on this earth are protected by many layers of lies and 
deception to protect it from swine, fools and prostitutes. 

The best most people on earth,  have are partial truths and almost truths and 
sometimes truths, but mostly false truths and  lies.  


David. 




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Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 07:50:48 -0700
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Hi Glen

Interesting argument. your point is that when evil gets going good men must 
stand up and fight it.

however isn't this just a justification to jump into another life or death 
struggle.

what if Hitler never rose to power because 99% of the German people just 
ignored him? 

The right thing to do when someone offers you a role in their destructive game 
with an argument like "Your either for me or against me" is to ignore them and 
keep on TROMing.

keep on TROMing
Pete

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On Jul 26, 2012, at 5:20 AM, Glen Strathy  wrote:

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> "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
> 
> There's a point where focusing only on your own personal growth becomes 
> self-indulgence, and abstaining from the world backfires.
>  
> On 7/26/2012 2:25 AM, Paul Tipon wrote:
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>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:50 PM, [email protected] wrote: 
>>> 
>>> On 25 July 2012 00:07, Pete Mclaughlin wrote: 
>>>> We cannot change the world we can only change ourselves. 
>>> 
>> This is so ultimately true. 
>> 
>>> So very true Pete.  I read somewhere that our bodies are our 
>>> subconscious minds. 
>>> 
>>> The body/mind is a dictator and it dictates that we must "do something". 
>>> 
>>> It commands, "Do something!" and when we don't act it then makes us feel 
>>> uncomfortable which is why withdrawing from the body/mind using Sedona, 
>>> hemisinc, EFT, Scientology, Dianetics etc are so highly regarded. And 
>>> they do help. 
>>> 
>> I too have worked on all of the above except Sedona.  When you say Hemisync, 
>> I presume to understand that you have worked on meditation.  Is this true? 
>> 
>> I have mentioned the value of meditation several times here on TROM and with 
>> it, it's particular advantages in going towards spiritual enlightenment and 
>> escape from the hidden control of the mind.  I would be interested in 
>> knowing how you found that practice to be. 
>> 
>>> But those attempted withdrawals from the mind just cause the mind to 
>>> pursue you and the only way to truly disengage, is to reduce its command 
>>> power over you using TROM. 
>>> 
>>> I don't know of any other way. 
>>> 
>>> Martin 
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Hi Glen
Interesting argument. your point is that when evil gets going good men must 
stand up and fight it.
however isn't this just a justification to jump into another life or death 
struggle.
what if Hitler never rose to power because 99% of the German people just 
ignored him? 
The right thing to do when someone offers you a role in their destructive game 
with an argument like "Your either for me or against me" is to ignore them and 
keep on TROMing.
keep on TROMingPete

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On Jul 26, 2012, at 5:20 AM, Glen Strathy <[email protected]> wrote:

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    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men
      do nothing."

      

    There's a point where focusing only on your own personal growth
    becomes self-indulgence, and abstaining from the world backfires.

     

    On 7/26/2012 2:25 AM, Paul Tipon wrote:

    
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      On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:50 PM, [email protected] wrote:
      

      
        

        On 25 July 2012 00:07, Pete Mclaughlin wrote:
        

        We cannot change the world we can only
          change ourselves.
          

        
        

      
      This is so ultimately true.
      

      

      So very true Pete.  I read somewhere that
        our bodies are our
        

        subconscious minds.
        

        

        The body/mind is a dictator and it dictates that we must "do
        something".
        

        

        It commands, "Do something!" and when we don't act it then makes
        us feel
        

        uncomfortable which is why withdrawing from the body/mind using
        Sedona,
        

        hemisinc, EFT, Scientology, Dianetics etc are so highly
        regarded. And
        

        they do help.
        

        

      
      I too have worked on all of the above except Sedona.  When you say
      Hemisync, I presume to understand that you have worked on
      meditation.  Is this true?
      

      

      I have mentioned the value of meditation several times here on
      TROM and with it, it's particular advantages in going towards
      spiritual enlightenment and escape from the hidden control of the
      mind.  I would be interested in knowing how you found that
      practice to be.
      

      

      But those attempted withdrawals from the
        mind just cause the mind to
        

        pursue you and the only way to truly disengage, is to reduce its
        command
        

        power over you using TROM.
        

        

        I don't know of any other way.
        

        

        Martin
        

      
      

      Paul/Level 5 in progress
      

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