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Hi Aarre, Antony and All,
I believe and see the discussion of Total Freedom or No Freedom as a
dichotomy with positions of degree between the two as the scale
between the two is traversed. Of course before you can ever get to a
scale, there has to be clarifications of, 'what is Freedom', then
'what is No Freedom' and 'what is Total Freedom'. Seems to me the
difficulty in knowing exactly what those things are has now become
more difficult, more fluid and in the process more, much much more
elusive as one efforts to tie it down and be more specific. It is
more in the realm of: Freedom? What do you want it to be? Bottom
line, it is not exactly definable, obviously, it is not an absolute.
Even if it were, that absolute would be many differences by the
factor of, how many are looking at this 'Freedom' thing.
Dissecting this further, Happiness is a consideration and a state of
mind. One person's happiness is another's sorrow and vice versa. I
leave that component out of the equation because it is an arbitrary
not all related to Freedom.
Just looking at Freedom, it is a relative subjective consideration
too. In fact being truly honest and non-partisan, practically, if
not all somethings other than basic root MEST can be quantified and
therefore scaled into a dichotomy. In other words, the particle is
the root. How big or small the particle is proceeds to set up a
dichotomy between big and small and with further quantizing and
qualifying, one can go all the way to which is better or worse,
desired or not desired, happy or unhappy with the resultant
quantization/qualitization. Once one goes past the basic root, a
particle is a particle, things start to get more and more slippery,
greasy and sticky. The number of definitions also begins to multiply.
Shakespeare had it right, "To be or not to be" and from there comes
the entire soliloquy of, 'be what?'. (What has been left out is this
discussion is non-physical things but the same applies there too.
It's just so much more simpler to use objects rather than
subjectivities.)
Has anyone recognized that we are in a game of 'what ....' right here
on this thread? It is not recognized as a game because we have all
not gotten past 8A with due to all of the high levels of ARC.
This then brings me back full circle to 'Importances'. And if one
can get to the point of 'Freedom from Importances', one has then
added a new arrow to one's 'quiver of the abilities', the ability to
exercise 'Free Will' under any circumstances and any reasons not to
exercise one's Freedom of choice.
Are you able to go back to Zero, throwing all data and considerations
aside and do it differently or however you desire it be done in a new
unit of time ... or don't even ever go there again. Go somewhere
entirely new in the realm of objectivities and subjectivities.
Yes, I have said it before and I will say it again 'Importances' are
the 'Key'. I believe it is a greater discovery by Dennis than TROM.
It can correct difficulties in TROM. TROM is purely a technology and
'importances' rank above it. They have to in order to correct TROM
problems. A re-ordering of importances can change one's beingness
entirely as well as any and all universes now extant and any that
come about in the future. See the reality and apply the reality of
importances. Do it thoroughly as I have explained in the past. Get
to 'Freedom of Importances' and never be the same again from any
moment to another. Re-order your 'Importances' as you see fit and
desire to do so. That is the thing that no one has ever put a trap
on but you and you have done so simply by missing the importance of
'Importances'.
Paul
On Oct 3, 2013, at 7:51 AM, Aarre Peltomaa wrote:
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Hello Antony,
I agree that the person is happiest when he has a balance of good
goals, freedoms, and barriers. Even Dennis said so himself
also. Thanks for the posting. I do believe that the being should
be able at will to totally turn off games and therefore have
Nirvana (nothingness) anytime he wishes, and then turn games
(therefore the physical universe) back on anytime he wishes; sort
of like turning a light switch on and off. This would be even
better if he can reduce one or the other like one would with a
light dimmer (rheostat). That would be the ultimate in my opinion.
Aarre Peltomaa,
[email protected],
Brampton, Ontario, Canada,
(647) 202-7267
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 1:50 AM, Ant Phillips
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Dear Trommer,
While we are talking of games, and because some here have been in
connection with Scientology, I wonder if you are aware that L Ron
Hubbard wrote "Only stupid visionaries chant of endless freedom. "
I have recently written a bit about it, which you could see at:
http://www.antology.info/articledetails.php?id_art=24
Good Tromming,
Ant
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