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Total freedom is a profound happiness, a total satisfaction, a deep peace of motionless emptiness and pureness that can not be disturbed or destroyed. The world around you can go mad, but this emptiness without any need is just there, it does not depend on game sensation for it's happiness, it has no urge to obtain anything, it just is all by itself, empty, motionless, timeless space and not even that, since it is also observing that. It is not the mind, it is beyond and prior to that. The mind, thought, emotion, importances, games sensation are all created and thus imaginary, illusionary, and have no existence beyond the believe that they exist and the believe they are needed (importance). It's not that games should be avoided either, that would be an inhibition and an importance in itself. It's just that they can not disturb your profound peace, your compassion and love for the whole universe also, since you recognise it as yourself. This state is not something that needs to be achieved, it is not a place to go to, it already is, like the sun is also shining although it's covered by the clouds. We hide it from ourselves through identification of our awareness with our thoughts and emotions, rather than with the space,the emptiness, the nothing in which they arise. It is one and the same presence in all of us, so when we're aware of it, we feel not just ourselves, but every living creature and even the whole universe. Love, Ludo. Op 4-okt.-2013 om 09:12 heeft Paul Tipon <[email protected]> het volgende geschreven: > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > ************ > Hi Aarre, Antony and All, > > I believe and see the discussion of Total Freedom or No Freedom as a > dichotomy with positions of degree between the two as the scale between the > two is traversed. Of course before you can ever get to a scale, there has to > be clarifications of, 'what is Freedom', then 'what is No Freedom' and 'what > is Total Freedom'. Seems to me the difficulty in knowing exactly what those > things are has now become more difficult, more fluid and in the process more, > much much more elusive as one efforts to tie it down and be more specific. > It is more in the realm of: Freedom? What do you want it to be? Bottom > line, it is not exactly definable, obviously, it is not an absolute. Even if > it were, that absolute would be many differences by the factor of, how many > are looking at this 'Freedom' thing. > > Dissecting this further, Happiness is a consideration and a state of mind. > One person's happiness is another's sorrow and vice versa. I leave that > component out of the equation because it is an arbitrary not all related to > Freedom. > > Just looking at Freedom, it is a relative subjective consideration too. In > fact being truly honest and non-partisan, practically, if not all somethings > other than basic root MEST can be quantified and therefore scaled into a > dichotomy. In other words, the particle is the root. How big or small the > particle is proceeds to set up a dichotomy between big and small and with > further quantizing and qualifying, one can go all the way to which is better > or worse, desired or not desired, happy or unhappy with the resultant > quantization/qualitization. Once one goes past the basic root, a particle is > a particle, things start to get more and more slippery, greasy and sticky. > The number of definitions also begins to multiply. > > Shakespeare had it right, "To be or not to be" and from there comes the > entire soliloquy of, 'be what?'. (What has been left out is this discussion > is non-physical things but the same applies there too. It's just so much > more simpler to use objects rather than subjectivities.) > > Has anyone recognized that we are in a game of 'what ....' right here on this > thread? It is not recognized as a game because we have all not gotten past > 8A with due to all of the high levels of ARC. > > This then brings me back full circle to 'Importances'. And if one can get to > the point of 'Freedom from Importances', one has then added a new arrow to > one's 'quiver of the abilities', the ability to exercise 'Free Will' under > any circumstances and any reasons not to exercise one's Freedom of choice. > > Are you able to go back to Zero, throwing all data and considerations aside > and do it differently or however you desire it be done in a new unit of time > ... or don't even ever go there again. Go somewhere entirely new in the > realm of objectivities and subjectivities. > > Yes, I have said it before and I will say it again 'Importances' are the > 'Key'. I believe it is a greater discovery by Dennis than TROM. It can > correct difficulties in TROM. TROM is purely a technology and 'importances' > rank above it. They have to in order to correct TROM problems. A > re-ordering of importances can change one's beingness entirely as well as any > and all universes now extant and any that come about in the future. See the > reality and apply the reality of importances. Do it thoroughly as I have > explained in the past. Get to 'Freedom of Importances' and never be the same > again from any moment to another. Re-order your 'Importances' as you see fit > and desire to do so. That is the thing that no one has ever put a trap on > but you and you have done so simply by missing the importance of > 'Importances'. > > Paul > > On Oct 3, 2013, at 7:51 AM, Aarre Peltomaa wrote: > >> ************* >> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] >> ************ >> Hello Antony, >> I agree that the person is happiest when he has a balance of good goals, >> freedoms, and barriers. Even Dennis said so himself also. Thanks for the >> posting. I do believe that the being should be able at will to totally turn >> off games and therefore have Nirvana (nothingness) anytime he wishes, and >> then turn games (therefore the physical universe) back on anytime he wishes; >> sort of like turning a light switch on and off. This would be even better >> if he can reduce one or the other like one would with a light dimmer >> (rheostat). That would be the ultimate in my opinion. >> Aarre Peltomaa, >> [email protected], >> Brampton, Ontario, Canada, >> (647) 202-7267 >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 1:50 AM, Ant Phillips <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> ************* >>> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] >>> ************ >>> >>> Dear Trommer, >>> >>> While we are talking of games, and because some here have been in >>> connection with Scientology, I wonder if you are aware that L Ron Hubbard >>> wrote "Only stupid visionaries chant of endless freedom. " >>> >>> I have recently written a bit about it, which you could see at: >>> http://www.antology.info/articledetails.php?id_art=24 >>> >>> Good Tromming, >>> >>> Ant >>> -- >>> Antony Phillips. >>> www.antology.info >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmXZ4X_uYRo (in Danish) >>> [email protected] >>> (+45) 45 88 88 69 >>> Admin to SelfClearing2004, >>> SuperScio, Cosmic History >>> mailing lists >>> Jernbanevej 3f 4th >>> DK 2800 Lyngby >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Trom mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trom mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
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