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Hi Marcus,
Kind of weird? Not for me. I call it Magic. A part of my life now is one of both summoning or responding to another when communication is desired by myself or the other party although no physical communication has taken place. It even happens to others who are with me and they come up with a desired communication to or from another. It's some kind of communication facility that I picked up. Now to your questions on Level 4. I didn't get what is going on with your processing and didn't get a certainty of what your questions are. But I have what I feel is very pertinent to this Level. Dennis does not talk about or have one consider which overwhelms are the ones that one should go after and clean up. I spent some time considering 'What overwhelms should one look for to run out'. There are several classes. There are both mental and physical overwhelms and of course with the 8 commands there are the overwhelms from others and those from oneself. There are also degrees of overwhelm. For now I would just look into those overwhelms that have occurred in a physical universe and choose those overwhelms which would be the most overwhelming and have the most adverse affect on you. Also look at those from other times and other universes. My question to you is ... What overwhelm(s) would you be the most effect of and have been the most effect of? Paul On Feb 8, 2017, at 12:20 PM, The Resolution of Mind list wrote: > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > ************ > Hello Trommers > > > I've been trying L4 drills intermitently for six months with little success > and finally I think it's time to ask for some help. What happened after a > while of trying is that I acquired some frustration with the vague meaning of > the 'know' verb and I now keep flipping my mind around this puzzle during the > process. > > > I ask whoever has achieved success in level 4 to answer these two items. > > > 1) On the 'To Know" definition in Level 4 > > It seems the verb 'know' has two categories of meanings for trom (A and B). > Do you hold in mind which of these definitions? Or do these meanings merge > being basically the same in essence? Please explain how. > > A) To perceive / experience / acquire data / duplicate / etc > > B) To believe, or hold a conviction beyond need of proof in your mind > > > Plus, every overwhelm seems to inherently contain the overwhelm Infliction > (which is what causes a conviction - meaning B) for the loser: > > I Must know that I must be (make X effect) known > I Must know that I must be (make X effect) not known > I Must know that I must know X effect > I Must know that I must not know X effect > > > > 2) Could you describe how was your mental process of doing level 4, meaning > what words (commands, synonimous of know, etc) did you use and what > visualizations or steps did you go through mentally until new material showed > up. Also, is the Be, Do, Have version from Paul a last resort or a smaller > and easier gradient? > > > > Marcus > > > p.s. I was researching this subject in the old archives yesterday and > coincidentally found Paul tipon's (whom I wasnt aware of until then) > explanations on this level, which are the most detailed in the recordings of > this list. Coincidentally he resurged later that same day on this list after > many years of absence! Kind of weird huh?
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