Blainer) I agree.  But the parallels I see with this prophecy and what
was happening during the so-called "dark ages" are striking.    However,
even if the prophecy of Amos was strictly limited to the time of the 
dispersion of Israel by the Assyrians,  it is also true  that there was a
similar situation when the Jews were driven out of Jerusalem some thirty
years after the death and resurrection of Jesus.  My point is that there
was a derth of the word of the Lord during the years following the
destruction of Jerusalem, and the subsequent dispersion of the Jews.  
"Israel" in its scattered condition could easily have been said to
fulfill this prophecy a second time, as they sought the word of the Lord
but were prevented from finding it. 

You wrote, "I believe that God's Word continued on after the first
century Christians.
I believe that apostles and prophets continued on.  Joseph Smith is the
one
who taught that "the church" went into ruin and needed restoration. 
While I
agree that many churches went into ruin, I do not believe that God's
testimony ceased to exist.  I believe that many true churches continued
on
along side of the harlot churches.  I see a need for restoration, but not
along the lines that Joseph Smith taught." 

I don't know of any real evidence that ANY churches, true or otherwise,
continued alongside the Harlot church.  It was not until Henry the 8th
threw off the Popes Bull and started his own church--the Church of
England--that any church besides the "great whore" dared to exist.  And
even then, it took the power of a King to bring it about.  
I don't understand how you can say this except as a point of what you
imagine COULD have been, although even there I see no historical support
for your position.  



On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 19:04:44 -0400 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Concerning Amos 8:11-12, Blainer asks:
> > But is Amos referring to this time, or later, when
> > the Roman church wrote all scriptures in Latin,
> > effectively creating a "famine" of the word of the
> > Lord among the uneducated classes of people?
> > Certainly the common people had no access
> > to the word of the Lord during this time.
> > To even own a Bible in one's own language
> > was heresy.  With no effective separation of
> > church and state, such an act was not only against
> > the canons of the church, it was an unlawful act.
> 
> Amos is definitely NOT talking about the Roman church.  Amos was a 
> prophet
> to Israel concerning a particular time.  Consider how Amos begins 
> his
> writings with the following words:
> 
> "The words of Amos, who was among the herdsmen of Tekoa, which he 
> saw
> concerning Israel in the days of Uzziah king of Judah, and in the 
> days of
> Jeroboam the son of Joash king of Israel, two years before the 
> earthquake."
> (Amos 1:1)
> 
> The prophecy concerns Israel, not the Roman church.
> 
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller.
> 
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