Blainer) Whew!!! Talk about not being interested in the truth! You squelch anything that might be a threat to your logic-tight compartments before it even gets off the starting line. I am really not interested in your "truths." I already know what the truth is.
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:38:41 -0400 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Blaine, tell me what part of what I said you do not believe, and I > would be > happy to provide more evidence for you. A lot of the evidence has > already > been discussed on TruthTalk, so I did not see need to repeat it in > detail > again. Do you not believe that these men you list were older when > they > married additional wives? Do you not believe that Joseph Smith lied > about > having more than one wife, or do you not believe that he had > multiple wives > at all? Do you not believe that the Bible teaches that an elder > must only > have one wife? I have no idea what part of what I said you do not > believe. > Tell me what you need more proof for, and I will give it to you. > But when > you only state that you have seen "nothing to prove all this > happened," that > sounds like you are not interested in the truth at all. > > I would also like to know if you agree with Joseph Smith's > treasonous act in > Nauvoo, Illinois, where he was Mayor of the largest city in > Illinois, > General of a State Militia, and where he used this entrusted power > to act > against certain citizens of Nauvoo, destroying their newspaper > printing > presses. Would you agree or disagree that this was a treasonous > act? > > Peace be with you. > David Miller. > > > Blainer) So far, I have seen nothing to prove all this happened. > I > > have, however, seen your biases showing on more than one > occasion. I > > have a book written by a non-LDS author, and even he shows much of > what > > you are saying was not only never proven, but in most cases was > shown to > > be inuendo, done by JS's enemies. Like Jesus, Joseph had plenty > of > > jealous/envious enemies, buzzing around, lookinfg for a place to > land. > > > > On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 09:00:47 -0400 "David Miller" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > writes: > > > Blainer wrote: > > > > ... I have some questions, OK? > > > > 1. How many wives did Jacob, later named Israel, have? > > > > 2. How many wives did Abraham have? > > > > 3. How many wives did Moses have? > > > > 4. How were these men treated by God--were they > > > > treated as sinners, or as men honored by God? > > > > > > The lives of these men hardly compare with Joseph Smith. If any > of > > > them had > > > died at the same age as Joseph Smith, none of them could be used > to > > > bolster > > > your case because none of them were polygamous prior to 38 years > old > > > (the > > > age Joseph Smith died). > > > > > > Jacob was called a deceiver and a supplanter. This came back > upon > > > him when > > > he was deceived and culturally forced into polygamy when his > > > father-in-law > > > insisted he marry the sister of the girl that he loved. > > > Nevertheless, his > > > four wives hardly compare to the unknown 35 to 60 wives that > Joseph > > > Smith > > > had. Furthermore, unlike Jospeph Smith, he did not lie to his > wives > > > and to > > > others, he did not pretend to only have one wife, he did not > marry > > > women > > > already married to other men, etc. > > > > > > > > God never told Abraham to marry another, but his wife Sarah gave > > > Abraham his > > > second wife, perhaps in order to keep compliant with local > > > governmental laws > > > which required such action from a barren wife. Contrast this > with > > > Smith's > > > wife objecting to Smith's many affairs, and bringing upon > herself a > > > false > > > prophecy from Smith that God would destroy her if she didn't > accept > > > him. > > > Instead, God destroyed Joseph Smith instead of Emma. > > > > > > After this blunder, of Abraham taking another wife, God told > Abraham > > > to send > > > his second wife away, thereby ending his polygamy. > > > > > > Moses probably only had one wife, but some people argue that he > had > > > two. > > > > > > And despite all these gross differences, all these men were part > of > > > a > > > different covenant with God. Jesus said that those in the > kingdom > > > of God > > > are greater than all these men, and those in the Kingdom of God > are > > > instructed that elders can only have one wife. Joseph Smith has > > > failed the > > > Biblical standard of an elder having only one wife, and he has > > > failed in tha > > > t he lied about it, claiming to others while he was alive that > he > > > had only > > > one wife. > > > > > > Peace be with you. > > > David Miller. > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you > may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you > have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. 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