Blaine, tell me what part of what I said you do not believe, and I would be happy to provide more evidence for you. A lot of the evidence has already been discussed on TruthTalk, so I did not see need to repeat it in detail again. Do you not believe that these men you list were older when they married additional wives? Do you not believe that Joseph Smith lied about having more than one wife, or do you not believe that he had multiple wives at all? Do you not believe that the Bible teaches that an elder must only have one wife? I have no idea what part of what I said you do not believe. Tell me what you need more proof for, and I will give it to you. But when you only state that you have seen "nothing to prove all this happened," that sounds like you are not interested in the truth at all.
I would also like to know if you agree with Joseph Smith's treasonous act in Nauvoo, Illinois, where he was Mayor of the largest city in Illinois, General of a State Militia, and where he used this entrusted power to act against certain citizens of Nauvoo, destroying their newspaper printing presses. Would you agree or disagree that this was a treasonous act? Peace be with you. David Miller. > Blainer) So far, I have seen nothing to prove all this happened. I > have, however, seen your biases showing on more than one occasion. I > have a book written by a non-LDS author, and even he shows much of what > you are saying was not only never proven, but in most cases was shown to > be inuendo, done by JS's enemies. Like Jesus, Joseph had plenty of > jealous/envious enemies, buzzing around, lookinfg for a place to land. > > On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 09:00:47 -0400 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: > > Blainer wrote: > > > ... I have some questions, OK? > > > 1. How many wives did Jacob, later named Israel, have? > > > 2. How many wives did Abraham have? > > > 3. How many wives did Moses have? > > > 4. How were these men treated by God--were they > > > treated as sinners, or as men honored by God? > > > > The lives of these men hardly compare with Joseph Smith. If any of > > them had > > died at the same age as Joseph Smith, none of them could be used to > > bolster > > your case because none of them were polygamous prior to 38 years old > > (the > > age Joseph Smith died). > > > > Jacob was called a deceiver and a supplanter. This came back upon > > him when > > he was deceived and culturally forced into polygamy when his > > father-in-law > > insisted he marry the sister of the girl that he loved. > > Nevertheless, his > > four wives hardly compare to the unknown 35 to 60 wives that Joseph > > Smith > > had. Furthermore, unlike Jospeph Smith, he did not lie to his wives > > and to > > others, he did not pretend to only have one wife, he did not marry > > women > > already married to other men, etc. > > > > > God never told Abraham to marry another, but his wife Sarah gave > > Abraham his > > second wife, perhaps in order to keep compliant with local > > governmental laws > > which required such action from a barren wife. Contrast this with > > Smith's > > wife objecting to Smith's many affairs, and bringing upon herself a > > false > > prophecy from Smith that God would destroy her if she didn't accept > > him. > > Instead, God destroyed Joseph Smith instead of Emma. > > > > After this blunder, of Abraham taking another wife, God told Abraham > > to send > > his second wife away, thereby ending his polygamy. > > > > Moses probably only had one wife, but some people argue that he had > > two. > > > > And despite all these gross differences, all these men were part of > > a > > different covenant with God. Jesus said that those in the kingdom > > of God > > are greater than all these men, and those in the Kingdom of God are > > instructed that elders can only have one wife. Joseph Smith has > > failed the > > Biblical standard of an elder having only one wife, and he has > > failed in tha > > t he lied about it, claiming to others while he was alive that he > > had only > > one wife. > > > > Peace be with you. > > David Miller. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
