Blainer)  David has some good thoughts, but in this case I go with what
my broader and more in-depth background tells me--that he is dead wrong
on the JS.

On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 23:50:41 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I wish to point out this double standard again.  All this Mormon talk 
> about 
> "suppose" and many words like that when it comes to their message.  
> But all 
> non- Mormons must have proof.  
> PS.  You're denying what DavidM said about this?
> 
> > Blainer)  So far, I have seen nothing to prove all this happened. 
> 
> Blainer)  So far, I have seen nothing to prove all this happened.  I
> have, however,  seen your biases showing on more than one occasion.  
> I
> have a book written by a non-LDS author, and even he shows much of 
> what
> you are saying was not only never proven, but in most cases was 
> shown to
> be inuendo, done by JS's enemies.  Like Jesus, Joseph had plenty of
> jealous/envious enemies, buzzing around, lookinfg for a place to 
> land.  
> 
> On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 09:00:47 -0400 "David Miller" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> > Blainer wrote:
> > > ... I have some questions, OK?
> > > 1.  How many wives did Jacob, later named Israel, have?
> > > 2.  How many wives did Abraham have?
> > > 3.  How many wives did Moses have?
> > > 4.  How were these men treated by God--were they
> > > treated as sinners, or as men honored by God?
> > 
> > The lives of these men hardly compare with Joseph Smith.  If any 
> of 
> > them had
> > died at the same age as Joseph Smith, none of them could be used 
> to 
> > bolster
> > your case because none of them were polygamous prior to 38 years 
> old 
> > (the
> > age Joseph Smith died).
> > 
> > Jacob was called a deceiver and a supplanter.  This came back upon 
> 
> > him when
> > he was deceived and culturally forced into polygamy when his 
> > father-in-law
> > insisted he marry the sister of the girl that he loved.  
> > Nevertheless, his
> > four wives hardly compare to the unknown 35 to 60 wives that 
> Joseph 
> > Smith
> > had.  Furthermore, unlike Jospeph Smith, he did not lie to his 
> wives 
> > and to
> > others, he did not pretend to only have one wife, he did not marry 
> 
> > women
> > already married to other men, etc.
> 
> > 
> > God never told Abraham to marry another, but his wife Sarah gave 
> > Abraham his
> > second wife, perhaps in order to keep compliant with local 
> > governmental laws
> > which required such action from a barren wife.  Contrast this with 
> 
> > Smith's
> > wife objecting to Smith's many affairs, and bringing upon herself 
> a 
> > false
> > prophecy from Smith that God would destroy her if she didn't 
> accept 
> > him.
> > Instead, God destroyed Joseph Smith instead of Emma.
> > 
> > After this blunder, of Abraham taking another wife, God told 
> Abraham 
> > to send
> > his second wife away, thereby ending his polygamy.
> > 
> > Moses probably only had one wife, but some people argue that he 
> had 
> > two.
> > 
> > And despite all these gross differences, all these men were part 
> of 
> > a
> > different covenant with God.  Jesus said that those in the kingdom 
> 
> > of God
> > are greater than all these men, and those in the Kingdom of God 
> are
> > instructed that elders can only have one wife.  Joseph Smith has 
> > failed the
> > Biblical standard of an elder having only one wife, and he has 
> > failed in tha
> > t he lied about it, claiming to others while he was alive that he 
> > had only
> > one wife.
> > 
> > Peace be with you.
> > David Miller.
> 

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