Blainer) If "Trinity" means the same as "Godhead," and does not refer to some special definition from some council of the past, then the answer is that Mormons definitely believe Jesus is God's Son and is the second person in the Trinity (Godhead). However, I have to add that Jesus and his Father are separate individuals, both having glorified bodies of flesh and bone. When Joseph Smith saw the first vision, he said the first individual to appear introduced the second individual as "my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." I believe the first was God the Father, and the second was God the Son, and that both appeared as corporal beings. I don't believe all Christians believe what I believe to be true, however. I think most believe God is a SPIRIT ONLY. I BELIEVE GOD IS A SPIRIT TABERNACLED IN A CORPORAL BODY. THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE I THINK YOU WERE DRIVING AT, IS IT NOT, GLENN?
On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 08:20:48 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Glenn - Christians believe Jesus is God's son, second person of the > Trinity. > Mormons do not belive that, correct? I don't expect to get a simply > yes or > no without qualifications. I'm slow but I have figured this out. > > Concerning Biblical words in the Bible...there are no English words > in the > Bible. Godhead and Trinity are the same to me. > King James Version (Authorized) > Verses 1 - 3 of 3 Click Verse Reference for Study Notes > > > Dictionaries - 1 > Easton's Bible Dictionary > · <A > HREF="http://www.searchgodsword.org/dic/ebd/view.cgi?number=T1514";>Godhea d</A> > > > Encyclopedias - 1 > International Standard Bible Encyclopedia > · <FONT COLOR="#0000ff" BACK="#fff<A > HREF="http://www.searchgodsword.org/enc/isb/view.cgi?number=T3857";>Godhea d</A> > > > Lexicons - 3 > Greek > · <A > HREF="http://www.searchgodsword.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=2305";>qeio/th v</A> > - Godhead > · <A > HREF="http://www.searchgodsword.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=2304";>qeiÛov< /A> > - Godhead > · <A > HREF="http://www.searchgodsword.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=2320";>qeo/thv </A> > - Godhead > > <A > HREF="http://www.searchgodsword.org/desk/?query=ac+17:29&translation=kjv&; st=1&new=1&sr=1&l=en">Ac > 17:29</A> - [<A > HREF="http://www.searchgodsword.org/desk/?query=ac+17:29&t=kjv&st=1&new=1 &sr=1&sc=1&l=en">In > Context</A>|<A > HREF="http://www.searchgodsword.org/desk/?query=ac+17&t=kjv&st=1&new=1&l= en">Read > Chapter</A>|<A > HREF="http://www.searchgodsword.org/isb/bible.cgi?query=ac+17:29&translat ion=kjv&ot=bhs&nt=na&sr=1&l=en">Original > Greek</A>]Forasmuch then as we are > the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like > unto > gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. > &new=1&sr=1&l=en">Ro 1:20</A> - [<A > HREF="http://www.searchgodsword.org/desk/?query=ro+1:20&t=kjv&st=1&new=1&; sr=1&sc=1&l=en">In > > Context</A>|<A > HREF="http://www.searchgodsword.org/desk/?query=ro+1&t=kjv&st=1&new=1&l=e n">Read > Chapter</A>|<A > HREF="http://www.searchgodsword.org/isb/bible.cgi?query=ro+1:20&translati on=kjv&ot=bhs&nt=na&sr=1&l=en">Original > Greek</A>]For the invisible things of him from the > creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the > things that > are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are > without > excuse: <A > HREF="http://www.searchgodsword.org/desk/?query=col+2:9&translation=kjv&s t=1&new=1&sr=1&l=en">Col > 2:9</A> - [<A > HREF="http://www.searchgodsword.org/desk/?query=col+2:9&t=kjv&st=1&new=1&; sr=1&sc=1&l=en">In > Context</A>|<A > HREF="http://www.searchgodsword.org/desk/?query=col+2&t=kjv&st=1&new=1&l= en">Read > Chapter</A>|<A > HREF="http://www.searchgodsword.org/isb/bible.cgi?query=col+2:9&translati on=kjv&ot=bhs&nt=na&sr=1&l=en">Original > Greek</A>]For in him dwelleth > all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. > > > > > > > > >> I did not JUST say Biblical Jesus. I defined the Biblical > Jesus using > >> Martin's definition > > DAVEH: You are losing me on this, Glenn. I thought Martin's > comments were > > related to cults. Did I miss something? Did he also define > "Biblical > > Jesus"??? > > >> which was a simple definition. You said you agreed with him. > > DAVEH: I think I'm getting mixed up on this. Did Martin comment > on > > "Biblical Jesus"? > > >> But I was waiting for the hammar to fall. :-) I've about > decided > >> Mormons don't believe anything that Christians believe after > their > >> definition changes. :-) > >> > >> > >> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> >>>> But, DaveL, I thought you said you worshiped the same > Jesus. > >>> > >>> > >>> DAVEH: You were the one who used the term, "Biblical Jesus". > OK > >>> Glenn.....I asked you to define that, and you used a > non-Biblical term. > >>> To me that takes Jesus out of the Biblical realm. > >>> >>>> Now you are doing with Jesus what you did with the > inerrency article. > >>>> You say you believe in them both, but you must change what was > said in > >>>> order to believe. I don't understand why you don't understand > this is > >>>> deceit. > >>> > >>> > >>> DAVEH: LOL.......Ohhhhhhhh Brother Glenn!!! To use a non > Biblical term > >>> to define "Biblical Jesus" strikes right to the heart of my pea > pickin' > >>> body! I don't understand why you would think I'm being > deceitful by > >>> questioning you on this. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
