I am afraid I detect a Pharisaical attitude in Glenn when I see him all
gleeful at finding a heretic to cast out of the church. "Aha! Aha!"
Reeks of spitefulness. I'd rather defend the "heretic" than take that
attitude, which to me is the worst form of legalism; certainly worse
than simply obeying the OT commandments. Izzy 

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Glenn wrote:
> God actually cast the Judiazers out of the
> church because he said they were fallen
> from grace.

Where did God say that?  Are you sure you aren't getting a little mixed
up
here?

What Paul said was that the Gentiles who tried to keep the law for
salvation
were the ones who would be fallen from grace.  If the GENTILES became
circumcised in order to be justified before God, then Christ would
profit
them nothing.  But Paul never said that the Judaizers were fallen from
grace
because they were circumcised.  God commanded Jews to be circumcised but
he
never commanded Gentiles to be circumcised.  Let's rightly divide the
Word
of God.

Here's what Paul taught to people like you, Glenn, who would judge
Sabbath
keepers as fallen from grace and even kick them out of the church.

Rom 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful
disputations.
...
Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth
every
day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Rom 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he
that
regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it.
...
Rom 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at
naught thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of
Christ.
Rom 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall
bow
to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
Rom 14:12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
Rom 14:13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge
this
rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his
brother's way.

So Paul receives the Sabbath keeper, and encourages us to receive him,
but
not to doubtful disputations.  How about you, Glenn?  Can you obey
Paul's
teaching here and do likewise?  Can you receive Marlin, but not to
doubtful
disputations?  Does the Word of God here in Romans 14 have any meaning
to
you whatsoever?  Can you respect the Word of God here and agree with it?

Peace be with you.
David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida  USA

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