Hi Marlin. Thank you for answering my questions to you. I have a much better understanding now of where you are coming from. I have a few more questions, if you don't mind.
David Miller wrote: >> 2. Must a Gentile observe the Mosaic teachings about >> the Sabbath in order to inherit eternal life? (yes or no?) Marlin wrote: > Jesus, Lord of the Sabbath which was made for man, > said, "...if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." > MAT 19:17 > The Sabbath command pre-dates Moses. See Genesis. But the verses following Mat. 19:17 mention specific commandments from the law of Moses, and none of them was the Sabbath commandment. David Miller wrote: >> 4. Worded yet another way, must a Gentile recognize >> and keep Saturday as a holy day, as the Jews do, in >> order to inherit eternal life? (yes or no?) Marlin wrote: > Jesus, Lord of the Sabbath which was made for man, > said, "...if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." > MAT 19:17 But you keep overlooking "which commandments" this passage is talking about. Let's look at the verse you quote with the verses following it. "And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honor thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself." (Matthew 19:16-19) These commandments are from the law of Moses, aren't they? Jesus never mentioned the Sabbath commandment, did he? Marlin wrote: > The Gentiles are not required to keep those laws pertaining > to the temple because the veil had been rent and the priesthood > changed to the Melchisedek priesthood of Abraham that > pre-dated it. Sabbath observance pre-dates the Mosaic > covenant. Sabbath OBSERVANCE predates the Mosaic covenant, but does the Sabbath COMMANDMENT predate it? Are we free to observe Sabbath now, as they were before the law of Moses, or are we bound by a commandment to observe the Sabbath? Do you understand the difference? Marlin wrote: > The Sabbath rest remains for the people of God. > HEB 4:3 For we which have believed do enter > into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, > if they shall enter into my rest: although the works > were finished from the foundation of the world. > HEB 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the > seventh [day] on this wise, And God did rest the > seventh day from all his works. > > The Sabbath rest is limited to a particular day. > > HEB 4:7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying > in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, > To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. > HEB 4:8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then > would he not afterward have spoken of another day. > HEB 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest [sabbatismos, > Sabbath keeping] to the people of God. > HEB 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he > also hath ceased from his own works, as God [did] > from his. > HEB 4:11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that > rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. > HEB 4:12 For the word of God [is] quick, and > powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing > even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the > joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts > and intents of the heart. But Marlin, the "particular day" is not the seventh day, Saturday, in this passage. Clearly, he is saying that David spoke of "today" that the promise still existed, and therefore the rest is not something that they had already been doing. We know that those in the wilderness kept the Sabbath. They put to death a man who gathered wood on the Sabbath, remember? Those in the wilderness were probably the best Saturday keepers that have ever lived on the face of this planet! Therefore, this rest spoken about in Hebrews 4 is the Kingdom of God, which is righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. What do you think? Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida USA ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
