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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Legalism and Grace
> David Miller wrote:
> > Marlin, I would love to hear what you think
> > of this passage. Do you believe that the letter
> > kills? Does this equate with the idea that legalism
> > kills?
>
> Marlin wrote:
> > No. Our breaking of God's law kills.
> > That is how the letter killeth.
>
> Ok, sure, breaking of God's law kills, but outside of Jesus Christ,
doesn't
> everyone break the law? Isn't it true that we are all sinners and
> lawbreakers outside of Jesus Christ?
>
> Don't you agree that the ministration of the letter of the law is called
the
> ministration of death by Paul? Let's look at more of that passage that I
> quoted for you earlier.
>
> 2Co 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of
Christ
> ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living
> God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
> 2Co 3:4 And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:
> 2Co 3:5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of
> ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
> 2Co 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of
> the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit
giveth
> life.
> 2Co 3:7 But IF THE MINISTRATION OF DEATH, WRITTEN AND ENGRAVEN IN STONES,
> was glorious, !!!
so that the children of Israel could not steadfastly behold
> the face of Moses
for the glory of his countenance; !!
which glory was to be done away:!!
> 2Co 3:8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather
glorious?!!!!!!!
> 2Co 3:9 For if the MINISTRATION OF CONDEMNATION be glory, much more doth
the
> ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.!!!!!!!!!
>
> It seems to me that Romans 7 explains very well how the letter of the law
> kills, and how the ministration of the law was a ministration of
> condemnation and a ministration of death. Do you agree?
I am not sure what the dissagreement seems to be. But OT law was glorious,
and the Spirit even more glorious. NT shows the spirit of the already
glorious OT law. The "be-attitudes."
The judgment is still future. Death has not passed away yet. The law still
applies to us.
REV 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there
shall
be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall
there
be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
---Marlin
If not, then let
> me know so that I can explain more about this.
>
> The letter kills but the spirit gives life. Amen?
>
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida USA
>
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