When was the Sabbath created? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles P. Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 10:08 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Yes, to claim the law is not a curse is to sin
> I posted this some time ago, and thought some who have joined the group > since it was posted might like to ponder the implications since the Law has > once again become a hot topic. > > > --- Original Message --- > > I have an interesting book called "The Seven Laws of Noah" (second edition, > by Aaron Lichtenstein, The Rabbi Jacob Joseph School Press, NY, 1981). The > book presents ancient Talmudic evidence for a body of law that was delivered > to Noah, thus predating the Mosaic law. When the Mosaic law was delivered to > the Jews, the Noahide law remained in effect for all Gentiles, so that there > were two bodies of law in effect, one for the Jews, and one for the > Gentiles. > > The Noahide law appears to be a subset of the 613 Mosaic laws recognized by > the Jews. If this indeed is the case, then Gentiles never were under Mosaic > law, but Noahide law, and so the question would become whether we gentiles, > who are Christians, are still under the Noahide law! > > Of course, the Old Testament never mentions the Laws of Noah in any formal > manner, as it does the Mosaic law, and one might expect that, since it is > the history of the Jews. There are other ancient laws in the OT that are > inferred, although not formally delivered, an example of which can be seen > in the fact that Cain and Abel were required to make sacrifices. There > obviously was a right way and a wrong way to do it, and somewhere along the > line they had to be told what this was. Additionally, there must have been a > law against murder since Cain was marked for killing Abel. It is possible > that the Noahide law may have been a continuation of the law delivered to > Cain and Abel, or possily even to Adam and Eve. > > The seven Noahide laws are: > > 1. Justice. (An imperative to pursue social justice, and a prohibition of > any miscarriage of justice.) > > 2. Blasphemy. (Prohibits a curse directed at the Supreme Being.) > > 3. Idolatry. (Prohibits the worship of idols and planets.) > > 4. Illicit Intercourse. (Prohibits adultery, incest, sodomy, and > bestiality.) > > 5. Homicide. (Prohibits murder and suicide.) > > 6. Theft. (Prohibits a wrongful taking of another's goods.) > > 7. Limb of a living creature. (Prohibits the eating of animal parts which > were severed from a living animal.) > > Having enumerated the 7 laws of Noah, the author of the book then separately > considers each of the seven laws, and determines which of the 613 Mosaic > laws are covered by each of the 7 Noahide laws, and determines that 66 of > the 613 Mosaic laws are thus included in the Noahide laws. As the author > points out, it is much easier to be a gentile than a Jew! > > By the way, the book was given to me by a Jewish friend who holds that > gentiles still DO fall under the Noahide Law, while Jews fall under the > Mosaic law. I guess he was tired of answering all of my questions! > > Perry > > > > > > > > >From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Yes, to claim the law is not a curse is to sin > >Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:51:53 -0600 > > > >As I said, feel free to drop by any time to chew us out, Glenn. It's always > >so refreshing. :-) We knew you were itching for it. Izzy > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 6:30 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: [TruthTalk] Yes, to claim the law is not a curse is to sin > > > > > > > >THE LAW IS A CURSE BECAUSE EVERYONE, THAT'S EVERYONE, DISOBEYS IT. THAT'S > >INCLUDES DAVID MILLER. I HAVE PERSONALLY OBSERVED HIM DISOBEYING THE LAW > >ON > >TT. > > > > > > > > > >This > > >passage speaks of the "curse of the law" which > > >is the curse that comes upon those who disobey > > >it (Deut. 28). This passage does NOT say that > > >the law is a curse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
