So, we might assume from the verse you referenced below that if some musical intervals appear evil to you that you should abstain from listening to them and producing them...but, if they do not appear evil to me, then it is okay for me to hear and produce them? There does not seem to be a Biblical standard for music...and after reading that we are to make a "joyful noise" unto the Lord, we may disagree on what He would see as a "joyful noise".
As, for the "mind reading" site, although it is nothing more than a mathematical trick, we should refrain from it because it "appears" (on the surface) to be evil, that is, it disguises the simple mathematical trick as a forbidden activity?
Has DavidH sinned by sending it to us? Shame on you, David. I knew there was something occultic about you! <VBG>.
Also, if we were to discover that the cross, prior to Christ, carried the connotation of forbidden practices, that is, was used as a symbol by occultic groups, that we should abstain from using it as a symbol of Christianity?
Perry
From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Brother Glenn Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 10:25:06 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
KJV 1 Cor. 5:22 Abstain from the APPEARANCE of evil Blessings Terry
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The "mind reading" site is indeed clever. But it brings up a great question for the gtroup! How many were even a little afraid to try it, thinking that it might have some occultic basis that God would not like? After all, it does claim to be reading your mind! And it does use ancient pictograms! And it does always come up with the right symbol (if we have done our math correctly).
Now, upon learning the trick, we find out that there is no magic, no mind reading, no consulting spirits, that it is only a mathematical trick being played on our minds, not a magical one. Did that not make it different for you? Now it is just a mathematical trick that is fun to play with. Is it still wrong because it CLAIMS to be reading your mind, or because it uses pictograms, or because the vehicle for the answer is in the image of a "crystal ball"?
Some early Christians considered certain musical intervals and harmonies to be evil, thus they were not allowed. That is what gave rise to the old "Gregorian Chants". Any interval or harmony that sounded discordant was considered evil. Eventually, additional intervals and harmonies were accepted, and limited harmonized music was allowed. As more and more intervals and harmonies were allowed, music became very rich in harmony.
Some music today is still considered evil. Is it because of the sound of it
or is it the words? Do we still hold some intervals and discordant harmonies
to be evil? Is "Christian Rock" pleasing to God? Will these someday be accepted as pleasing to God? Is it based on what purpose the performer intends, or is it based on our interpretation or dislike for the sounds created? (There are seven references in the Psalms to making a "joyful noise" unto the Lord! What does He consider "joyful" and "noise"?) In fact, some churches today still do not allow instruments in their sanctuaries (in spite of Psalm 150) and sing all of their hymns acappella.
Perry
>From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 23:41:45 -0800
>
>DAVEH: Ahhhhhh DavidM, you took all the fun out of it! We could have had
>Izzy stewin' about this for a month! LOL
>
>David Miller wrote:
>
> > Izzy wrote:
> > > Okay, I'll admit I'm an idiot---how does this
> > > thing WORK? It's too funny!
> > > http://mr-31238.mr.valuehost.co.uk/assets/Flash/psychic.swf
> >
> > Izzy, notice that everytime you try again, the association of symbols
>and
> > numbers change. Notice also which numbers are associated with the same
> > symbol. Then notice how the formula causes all numbers within the same
> > range to compute to the same number. For example, 10-19 always results
>in
> > 9, 20-29 always results in 18, 30-39 always results in 27, etc. Hmmm...
> > look at the symbols for these numbers. They are always the same. It's
> > rigged!
> >
> > Peace.
> > David Miller.
>
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